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Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-ula-usage-recommendations - work or abandon?

Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> Thu, 12 November 2015 21:59 UTC

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We have to solve the scaling problem of how we currently do routing at some point no matter what.

ULA+NPT as a workaround is an extremely poor choice IMHO.

Owen

> On Nov 12, 2015, at 13:48 , Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> In message <95BC3D07-EF27-45A9-A1E0-12F9B43061C7@delong.com <mailto:95BC3D07-EF27-45A9-A1E0-12F9B43061C7@delong.com>>, Owen DeLong write
> s:
>> 
>>> On Nov 12, 2015, at 11:43 , Gert Doering <gert@space.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:36:06AM -0800, Owen DeLong wrote:
>>>>> The IETF world does not (at least "should not") revolve around "companies
>> ",
>>>>> and I wish you good luck finding a SoHo ISP that will route your PI space
>> .
>>>> 
>>>> 2620:0:930::/48
>>> 
>>> This is not a typical SoHo ISP.
>>> 
>>> Try finding one which is not your employer.
>> 
>> neither of the upstreams for that address employs me at this time.
>> 
>> Admittedly I did use to work for ONE of the two, but anyone can get that one 
>> to route their /48.
> 
> And how many SME's are there in the world?  This paper [1] puts the
> number at 125M MSME world wide.  That's 125M routing slots if
> everyone gets a /48.
> 
> Mark
> 
> [1] http://www.ifc.org/wps/wcm/connect/9ae1dd80495860d6a482b519583b6d16/MSME-CI-AnalysisNote.pdf?MOD=AJPERES <http://www.ifc.org/wps/wcm/connect/9ae1dd80495860d6a482b519583b6d16/MSME-CI-AnalysisNote.pdf?MOD=AJPERES>
> 
>> Owen
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