Re: [v6ops] SLAAC renum: Problem Statement & Operational workarounds

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Fri, 25 October 2019 17:59 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] SLAAC renum: Problem Statement & Operational workarounds
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On Oct 25, 2019, at 1:52 PM, Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> wrote:
> The "flash renumbering" could also happen if the CPE was trying to kind
> of the right thing, the ISP does not employ stable prefixes, and the CPE
> happens to crash and reboot. Some CPEs also reportedly do a "release"
> when rebooted.

That’s probably a bug.   If the CPE has a valid lease, and the prefix is still working, it should continue to advertise it until its valid lifetime expires.   The ISP DHCP server should be giving the router two prefixes if it’s being renumbered: the preferred one, and the one that’s still valid but not preferred anymore.