[v6ops] Re: The V6OPS WG has placed draft-cc-v6ops-wlcg-flow-label-marking in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"
Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com> Fri, 26 July 2024 15:41 UTC
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From: Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2024 08:41:05 -0700
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Subject: [v6ops] Re: The V6OPS WG has placed draft-cc-v6ops-wlcg-flow-label-marking in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"
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On Fri, Jul 26, 2024 at 12:27 AM Gert Doering <gert@space.net> wrote: > > Hi > > On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 05:04:03PM -0700, Tom Herbert wrote: > > Can you provide more information on this? Also, as "research" networks > > it seems like there might be more latitude to be cutting edge and fix > > problems with things like EH? > > Over here, "research" networks are more enterprise-style networks providing > Internet connectivity to universities. > > There is no network research going on, many of them even lacking IPv6 > support (because, "enterprise"). Gert, If it's an enterprise network then that would be closer to a limited domain, so maybe the problems are addressable. In any case, as this solution seems specific to a few enterprise networks and I don't see any problem overloading the flow label in this manner as people are certainly free to do whatever they want in their network. There's no protocol change and I'm assuming that IPV6_FLOWLABEL_MGR socket option is used to set the flow label (or maybe a BPF program?) so there should be no kernel changes. On the other hand, because it is specific to a network, I don't see the need to publish this as an RFC. Using the flow label for this purpose is inherently and perpetually limited so I believe wide adoption isn't likely. If the intent is to push it as a general solution then I think there will need to be a lot more discussion on the ramifications of pushing a protocol with no scalability as opposed to using an existing protocol that is scalable and designed for expressing this sort of information (DestOpts). Maybe this could be published as an Individual Contribution? Tom > > Gert Doering > -- NetMaster > -- > have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? > > SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, Ingo Lalla, > Karin Schuler, Sebastian Cler > Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann > D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) > Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279
- [v6ops] The V6OPS WG has placed draft-cc-v6ops-wl… IETF Secretariat
- [v6ops] Re: The V6OPS WG has placed draft-cc-v6op… Brian E Carpenter
- [v6ops] Re: The V6OPS WG has placed draft-cc-v6op… Nick Buraglio
- [v6ops] Re: The V6OPS WG has placed draft-cc-v6op… Tom Herbert
- [v6ops] Re: The V6OPS WG has placed draft-cc-v6op… Gert Doering
- [v6ops] Re: The V6OPS WG has placed draft-cc-v6op… Tom Herbert
- [v6ops] Re: The V6OPS WG has placed draft-cc-v6op… Nick Buraglio
- [v6ops] Re: The V6OPS WG has placed draft-cc-v6op… Tom Herbert
- [v6ops] Re: The V6OPS WG has placed draft-cc-v6op… Nick Buraglio
- [v6ops] Re: The V6OPS WG has placed draft-cc-v6op… Brian E Carpenter
- [v6ops] Re: The V6OPS WG has placed draft-cc-v6op… David Farmer
- [v6ops] Re: The V6OPS WG has placed draft-cc-v6op… Tom Herbert
- [v6ops] Re: The V6OPS WG has placed draft-cc-v6op… Timothy Winters
- [v6ops] Fwd: The V6OPS WG has placed draft-cc-v6o… Nick Buraglio
- [v6ops] Re: Fwd: The V6OPS WG has placed draft-cc… David Farmer
- [v6ops] Re: Fwd: The V6OPS WG has placed draft-cc… Nick Buraglio
- [v6ops] Re: Fwd: The V6OPS WG has placed draft-cc… Nick Buraglio
- [v6ops] Re: Fwd: The V6OPS WG has placed draft-cc… Mark Smith
- [v6ops] Re: Fwd: The V6OPS WG has placed draft-cc… Tom Herbert
- [v6ops] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Fwd: The V6OPS WG has … Tommy Jensen
- [v6ops] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Fwd: The V6OPS WG has … Brian E Carpenter
- [v6ops] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Fwd: The V6OPS WG has … Tom Herbert
- [v6ops] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Fwd: The V6OPS WG has … Brian E Carpenter
- [v6ops] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Fwd: The V6OPS WG has … Tom Herbert
- [v6ops] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Fwd: The V6OPS WG has … Tim Chown
- [v6ops] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Fwd: The V6OPS WG has … Tom Herbert
- [v6ops] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Fwd: The V6OPS WG has … Tim Chown
- [v6ops] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Fwd: The V6OPS WG has … Tim Chown
- [v6ops] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Fwd: The V6OPS WG has … Tom Herbert
- [v6ops] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Fwd: The V6OPS WG has … Tom Herbert
- [v6ops] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Fwd: The V6OPS WG has … Tim Chown
- [v6ops] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Fwd: The V6OPS WG has … Tim Chown
- [v6ops] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Fwd: The V6OPS WG has … Dale W. Carder
- [v6ops] Re: Fwd: The V6OPS WG has placed draft-cc… Dale W. Carder