Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6rtr-reqs
Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> Tue, 06 February 2018 05:34 UTC
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6rtr-reqs
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On Mon, 5 Feb 2018, 7riw77@gmail.com wrote: > There is some confusion between "SDN" and "disaggregated" in the air > around the networking world. We need to clarify these somewhat. SDN has > a specific meaning: centralizing the discovery of reachable destinations > and topology, and centralizing the calculation of loop free paths > through the network, in whole or in part. White box + some mixture of > sourced and open source are not SDN. SDN means anything and nothing in todays world. So while I agree with your definition, that's not how it's widely accepted to be defined. There are multiple of the biggest network equipment vendors who also includes orchestration (of both network and applications) into the SDN concept. I have seen people use the term SDN for exactly the thing you mentioned in the last paragraph. So whenever you use SDN in a text, you need to define it, because it's been marketed to hell and back, and it now means different things to different people. -- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se
- [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6rt… Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… David Farmer
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Dale W. Carder
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… 7riw77
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… David Farmer
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… 7riw77
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… 7riw77
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… David Farmer
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Bob Hinden
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… 7riw77
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… 7riw77
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… STARK, BARBARA H
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… STARK, BARBARA H
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Bob Hinden
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… 7riw77
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Tim Chown
- [v6ops] "SDN" [was Re: Discussion focus: draft-ie… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Bob Hinden