Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier
joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com> Tue, 18 February 2014 03:55 UTC
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On 2/17/14, 6:45 PM, lizhenqiang@chinamobile.com wrote: > > > > > > > Thank you very much, Mr. Morrow. Yes, it is a good start. I will > contact Vijay for detail. However, I do not see the function that we > want from the slides. In fact, we also use some tools to assist our > network plan. However, the tools can not satisfy such complex > requirement. In a hierarchical operation network, the tools to > implement the logic we want is not a easy job. Zhenqiang Li We allocate ipv4 addresses today presumably, which implies the existence of business logic in basically all isps that accounts for the hierarchic allocation of 32 bit numbers. A brief cruise over to http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address-space.xhtml Reveals a pool of at least 28 bits (a /4 in ipv4 land) worth of 32bit numbers that will never overlap with ipv4 unicast address assignments that you traditionally use for router-ids. embedding those in family iso addresses if you like seems harmless and you'll never accidentally configure one as a unicast address on an interface. it'll be a little while before I need 268 million bgp speaking routers in the same AS. > > From: Christopher MorrowDate: 2014-02-17 23:59To: Randy BushCC: idr > wg; V6 Ops List; Robert RaszukSubject: Re: [Idr] [v6ops] BGP > Identifierhttp://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog44/presentations/Monday/Gill_programatic_N44.pdf > > Mike's presentation (given by vijay) is a decent start... > > On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote: >>> Would you please give me an example about how modern large ISPs >>> manage their networks? >> >> programmatic generation of configurations from databases. >> >> randy >> >> _______________________________________________ Idr mailing list >> Idr@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr > > _______________________________________________ Idr mailing list > Idr@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr > > > > > _______________________________________________ v6ops mailing list > v6ops@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops >
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- Re: [v6ops] BGP Identifier Randy Bush
- Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier Robert Raszuk
- Re: [v6ops] BGP Identifier Sander Steffann
- Re: [v6ops] BGP Identifier Jared Mauch
- Re: [v6ops] BGP Identifier Rajiv Asati (rajiva)
- Re: [v6ops] BGP Identifier Owen DeLong
- Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier Randy Bush
- Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier Mitchell Erblich
- Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier Mitchell Erblich
- Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier Jon Mitchell
- Re: [v6ops] BGP Identifier Shane Amante
- Re: [v6ops] BGP Identifier Randy Bush
- Re: [v6ops] BGP Identifier Sander Steffann
- Re: [v6ops] BGP Identifier Shane Amante
- Re: [v6ops] BGP Identifier Sander Steffann
- Re: [v6ops] BGP Identifier Shane Amante
- Re: [v6ops] BGP Identifier Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier David Farmer
- Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier Sander Steffann
- Re: [v6ops] BGP Identifier Owen DeLong
- Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier Randy Bush
- Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier Fan, Peng
- Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier Shane Amante
- Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier Robert Raszuk
- Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier Christopher Morrow
- Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier Fan, Peng
- Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier Randy Bush
- Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier Fan, Peng
- Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier Fan, Peng
- Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier Randy Bush
- Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier joel jaeggli
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- Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier lizhenqiang@chinamobile.com
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- Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier Randy Bush
- Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier lizhenqiang@chinamobile.com
- Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier lizhenqiang@chinamobile.com
- Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier Randy Bush
- Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier Christopher Morrow
- Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier Fan, Peng
- Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier UTTARO, JAMES
- Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier Christopher Morrow
- Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier lizhenqiang@chinamobile.com
- Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier lizhenqiang@chinamobile.com
- Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier joel jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier George Michaelson
- Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier joel jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier Randy Bush
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- Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier Randy Bush
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- Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier Jared Mauch
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- Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier UTTARO, JAMES
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- Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier Randy Bush
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