Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-yc-v6ops-solicited-ra-unicast

Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com> Tue, 21 July 2015 11:38 UTC

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From: Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:37:54 +0200
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-yc-v6ops-solicited-ra-unicast
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On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Ole Troan <otroan@employees.org> wrote:

>  - what happens when the router reboots, will not all the hosts then try
> to actively reconnect?
>

It depends on whether the router is also the wifi access point. In general,
in the large wifi networks to which this draft is targeted, that is not the
case.


>  - while this is intended for WIFI networks, in common deployments the
> WIFI interface is not integrated in the router. for the router’s
> perspective this just looks like another wired interface. either this has
> to be made configurable and not the default, or considerations of large
> flat wired L2 networks must also be considered.
>

The router wouldn't need to know this, only the network administrator. If
the network administrator knew that a particular interface was providing
service to a network with a large number of mobile nodes, then the
administrator could configure that interface to send solicited RAs unicast.