Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-requirements-01

Med,

I still see no reason to replicate information since what comes to "a pure IPv6 profile for a 3GPP link", it should be exactly the same in both documents. I am just trying to avoid misalignment now and in the future. I would also argue that draft-binet-* is a profile for a specific deployment(s) in mind, not a generic IPv6 profile for cellular. It is a way more (not that it would be a bad thing though..).

- Jouni

On Nov 16, 2012, at 2:07 PM, <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> wrote:

> Hi Jouni,
> 
> What I understood from the v6ops meeting is that wg participants see these two documents have distinct objectives. As such the question of overlapping does not apply as these documents serve two distinct objectives. Furthermore, because draft-binet-*'s objective is to define an IPv6 profile for cellular, we prefer the document be self-contained and use consistent language for all requirements.
> 
> Cheers,
> Med 
> 
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : Jouni [mailto:jouni.nospam@gmail.com] 
>> Envoyé : jeudi 15 novembre 2012 16:40
>> À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed OLNC/OLN
>> Cc : v6ops@ietf.org; Mikael Abrahamsson; Pete Vickers
>> Objet : Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-requirements-01
>> 
>> 
>> Med,
>> 
>> I am slightly confused about the overlap of 
>> draft-binet-v6ops-* and draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc3316bis. My 
>> recollection was that overlaps were supposed to be removed and 
>> then concentrate on the remaining part in draft-binet-v6ops-*, 
>> no? This would concern requirements #1, #6, #7, #8, #9, #17, 
>> #22, #23, #25, #26, #27. My recommendation would be removing 
>> those and just reference to [draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc3316bis] 
>> because the base IPv6 compliancy would come from there and I 
>> see no reason to repeat those here.
>> 
>> Then a question about the relevance of #24. Given the current 
>> bandwidth in 3G/LTE is there really a need to compress 
>> headers? And if people really see it as a life critical 
>> feature to have, I would appreciate listing the ROHC profiles 
>> that are essential (e.g., align with IR.92 & IR.58 that will 
>> be implemented on the network side).
>> 
>> - Jouni
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 15, 2012, at 4:59 PM, <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> 
>> <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear all,
>>> 
>>> We submitted a new version of the draft to take into account 
>> the comments received from M. Abrahamsson and P. Vickers.
>>> 
>>> The main changes are:
>>> 
>>> * Add some clarification text for REQ#3
>>> * Mention stateless dhcpv6 is useful to retrieve other 
>> information than DNS
>>> * Re-word REQ#15
>>> * Cite "Happy Eyeballs" in REQ#16
>>> * Update the text of REQ#17
>>> * Add two sub-requirements to REQ#19: IPv6-only connectivity + SLAAC
>>> * Precise the ordering in REQ#21
>>> 
>>> A more detailed diff is available at:
>>> 
>> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-hos
>> t-requirements-01
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chairs, would it be possible to issue a Call For Adoption 
>> for this document? Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Med
>>> 
>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>> De : i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org 
>> [mailto:i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de 
>> internet-drafts@ietf.org
>>> Envoyé : jeudi 15 novembre 2012 15:53
>>> À : i-d-announce@ietf.org
>>> Objet : I-D Action: 
>> draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-requirements-01.txt
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line 
>> Internet-Drafts directories.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 	Title           : Internet Protocol Version 6 (IPv6) 
>> Requirements for Cellular Hosts
>>> 	Author(s)       : David Binet
>>>                         Mohamed Boucadair
>>>                         Ales Vizdal
>>>                         Cameron Byrne
>>>                         Gang Chen
>>> 	Filename        : 
>> draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-requirements-01.txt
>>> 	Pages           : 16
>>> 	Date            : 2012-11-15
>>> 
>>> Abstract:
>>>  This document lists a set of IPv6-related requirements to be
>>>  supported by cellular hosts.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>>> 
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-hos
>> t-requirements
>>> 
>>> There's also a htmlized version available at:
>>> 
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-requ
>> irements-01
>>> 
>>> A diff from the previous version is available at:
>>> 
>> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-hos
>> t-requirements-01
>>> 
>>> 
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