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Re: [v6ops] Incremental Deployment of IPv6-only Wi-Fi for IETF Meetings

David Schinazi <dschinazi@apple.com> Mon, 17 July 2017 09:07 UTC

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Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 11:07:10 +0200
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Incremental Deployment of IPv6-only Wi-Fi for IETF Meetings
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> On Jul 17, 2017, at 10:59, Tore Anderson <tore@fud.no> wrote:
> [...]
> Host operating systems that implements the CLAT component of 464XLAT
> (e.g., Android or recently updated Windows 10) should be able to simply
> activate it. While Apple doesn't implement 464XLAT per se they have
> something similar, so they should be covered too.

Indeed, section 4.2 mentions:

   Operating systems SHOULD provide simple
   ways for applications to do so or even connect to IPv4 literals in
   the absence of host names.  Possible solutions include 464XLAT
   [RFC6877], "Bump-in-the-Host" [RFC6535] and Happy Eyeballs v2 [HEv2].

Apple devices support HEv2, and this is massively deployed which
has proved that it is a viable solution.

David

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