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Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6rtr-reqs

<7riw77@gmail.com> Fri, 02 February 2018 15:41 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6rtr-reqs
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> b) If you can provide scoping text that defines which routers are covered,
> rather than a generalisation like "pretty much all", we could stop arguing.

I can't think of any scoping text that cannot have holes punched in it, and hence won't end up being a separate document itself. If folks could provide scoping that will hold up against various objections and corner cases, whether for the entire document or individual requirements, I'd be happy to include it.

IMHO, such text is a null set -- there are too many corner cases, etc. For instance, you cannot say "routers designed for home use do not need to follow these recommendations" -- whose home, and under what conditions (managed by a provider, by the user, etc.)? Or "routers designed to operate at the Internet core" -- too ambiguous, and it's not always true... It _might_ be possible to find some _specific_, individual, requirements on which we can get _everyone_ to agree to a scope -- but I don't see any evidence of this yet.

😊 /r

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