Re: [v6ops] Status of CLAT implementation on iPhone? (IPv4 apps on IPv6-only PDP type)

"Heatley, Nick" <nick.heatley@ee.co.uk> Mon, 23 February 2015 16:04 UTC

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From: "Heatley, Nick" <nick.heatley@ee.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Status of CLAT implementation on iPhone? (IPv4 apps on IPv6-only PDP type)
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FWIW +1 to that

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Sent: 23 February 2015 15:40
To: Alexandru Petrescu
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Status of CLAT implementation on iPhone? (IPv4 apps on IPv6-only PDP type)



On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 7:16 AM, Alexandru Petrescu <alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com<mailto:alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com>> wrote:
Le 23/02/2015 15:11, Lorenzo Colitti a écrit :
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 9:38 PM, Alexandru Petrescu
<alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com<mailto:alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com> <mailto:alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com<mailto:alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com>>>

wrote:

I am asking because in private conversation I have noticed doubts
about this being done.  Or, since the iPhone relies on a bsd
derivative, it would be technically feasible to implement CLAT on it;
it is nothing more than some iptables address translation plus a bit
of python scripting in case.


They are also free to reuse existing implementations of clat, such as
 the one that Android uses, which is BSD-licensed.

Maybe end users will install it and it will work off-the-shelf, just
like every other app.


Alex


This is not a path towards success since it requires the user to care about how their connectivity is achieved.

An ipv(v4|v6) decision is only ever made at scale by default, at scale

That said, Android and Microsoft have already included CLAT as part of the OS.

It would substantially and immediately improve my IPv6 deployment, and restoration of a proper e2e IPv6 internet,  if Apple would release CLAT as part of their OS.

CB

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