[v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3
Xipengxiao <xipengxiao@huawei.com> Tue, 16 July 2024 09:59 UTC
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From: Xipengxiao <xipengxiao@huawei.com>
To: Philip Homburg <pch-v6ops-13@u-1.phicoh.com>, "v6ops@ietf.org" <v6ops@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3
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Subject: [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3
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Hi Philip, We are not proposing "send reports to random third parties" but providing a (rolling 3-day) log on the client's local machine. For most clients, this log is unnoticeable and useless, but for researchers, they can collect the logs to research. At least this is the way I see it. XiPeng -----Original Message----- From: pch-b538D2F77@u-1.phicoh.com <pch-b538D2F77@u-1.phicoh.com> On Behalf Of Philip Homburg Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2024 11:29 AM To: v6ops@ietf.org Cc: Jeremy Duncan <jduncan=40tachyondynamics.com@dmarc.ietf.org>; Alldispatch@ietf.org; draft-pauly-v6ops-happy-eyeballs-v3@ietf.org Subject: [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 > 1000% agree here. > > > HE is masking IPv6 network problems we need to add some sort of > notification/alerting somewhere. HE is typically embedded in end-user applications running on roaming client devices. In my opinion it would be wrong to have applications send reports about client traffic to random third parties without the user's consent. I think it is also unlikely that many people will of can give consent because first they are not aware there is HE and second they don't understand what it does of what they are consenting to. So I would suggest that we don't go too far in this rabbit hole. _______________________________________________ v6ops mailing list -- v6ops@ietf.org To unsubscribe send an email to v6ops-leave@ietf.org
- [v6ops] Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Tommy Pauly
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Re: Dispatching Happy E… Brian E Carpenter
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Dispatching Happy Eyeba… Bob Hinden
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Dispatching Happy Eyeba… Tommy Pauly
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Xipengxiao
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 jordi.palet@consulintel.es
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Tommy Pauly
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Jeremy Duncan
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Tommy Pauly
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Philip Homburg
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Xipengxiao
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Philip Homburg
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 David Farmer
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Re: Re: Dispatching Hap… David Farmer
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Xipengxiao
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Re: Dispatching Happy E… Tommy Pauly
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Gert Doering
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Brian Candler
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Gert Doering
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Re: Re: Dispatching Hap… Gert Doering
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Philip Homburg
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Soni "They/Them" L.
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Xipengxiao
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Re: Re: Dispatching Hap… Stephen Farrell
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 jordi.palet@consulintel.es
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Re: Re: Dispatching Hap… Stephen Farrell
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Brian Candler
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Brian Candler
- Re: [v6ops] [Alldispatch] Dispatching Happy Eyeba… Michael Richardson
- Re: [v6ops] [Alldispatch] Dispatching Happy Eyeba… Tommy Pauly
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Re: Re: Dispatching Hap… Kyle Larose
- Re: [v6ops] [Alldispatch] Dispatching Happy Eyeba… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [v6ops] [Alldispatch] Dispatching Happy Eyeba… Tim Chown
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Tommy Pauly
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Gert Doering
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Re: Dispatching Happy E… Tommy Pauly
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Re: Re: Dispatching Hap… David Farmer
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Dispatching Happy Eyeba… Tommy Pauly
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Dispatching Happy Eyeba… Brian E Carpenter
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Re: Re: Dispatching Hap… Gert Doering
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Philip Homburg
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Xipengxiao
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 jordi.palet@consulintel.es
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Philip Homburg
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Nick Buraglio
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Re: Re: Dispatching Hap… Michael Richardson
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Dan Wing
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Philip Homburg
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Matthew Petach
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Philip Homburg
- [v6ops] Exposing HEv3 results (was Re: Re: Dispat… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- [v6ops] Re: Exposing HEv3 results (was Re: Re: Di… Brian E Carpenter
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Re: Exposing HEv3 resul… Michael Richardson
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Re: Exposing HEv3 resul… Stephen Farrell
- [v6ops] Re: Exposing HEv3 results (was Re: Re: Di… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Re: Re: Dispatching Hap… Tommy Pauly
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Re: Dispatching Happy E… Ted Hardie
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Re: Dispatching Happy E… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- [v6ops] Re: Exposing HEv3 results (was Re: Re: Di… Vasilenko Eduard
- [v6ops] Re: Exposing HEv3 results (was Re: Re: Di… David Schinazi
- [v6ops] Re: Exposing HEv3 results (was Re: Re: Di… David Farmer
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Re: Re: Dispatching Hap… Stephen Farrell
- [v6ops] Re: Exposing HEv3 results (was Re: Re: Di… Erik Nygren
- [v6ops] Re: [Alldispatch] Re: Re: Dispatching Hap… Michael Richardson
- [v6ops] Re: Dispatching Happy Eyeballs Version 3 Erik Nygren
- [v6ops] Re: Exposing HEv3 results (was Re: Re: Di… Gyan Mishra
- [v6ops] Re: Exposing HEv3 results (was Re: Re: Di… David Schinazi