Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups
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From: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com>
To: Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo=40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
CC: Jen Linkova <furry13@gmail.com>, V6 Ops List <v6ops@ietf.org>, 6man <ipv6@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups
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Sleeping devices should have a helper that covers for them; the more troubling case is that if a silent device, like this printer in the corner. Not sleeping just sitting there and very sure that it will get packets for a very long time. As opposed to a phone that would fully benefit from grand, that guy will not benefit at all after day one? Unless it renews the binding. To Jen’s point, the host does not need to guess the lifetime in the BCE. When something is needed we must add a protocol element to pass it, that’s what protocols do. Now I’d argue that all addresses should not get the same service from the router, and only the host k owe if the address should be short or long lived. This is why the lifetime in of the binding in the router should be requested by the host and granted by the router. This is nothing new, mobile IP works exactly like that. Regards, Pascal Le 12 août 2020 à 16:10, Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo=40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> a écrit : On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 12:55 PM Jen Linkova <furry13@gmail.com<mailto:furry13@gmail.com>> wrote: > 2) I think MAY is too weak to rely on. One possibility to deal with 1) > and 2) is to have an RA option that specifies the interval. Then we > can make sending the NAs if the option is present a SHOULD or MUST I'm not convinced we shall be doing it in the first place ;) And MUST or even SHOULD look like a very strong requirement on all hosts just to cover the very special case of sleeping devices. +1 to not doing this, because some of those "sleeping devices" might also be routers (e.g., a phone that is sharing the wifi connection). Per spec, any packet to ff02::2 will reach and potentially wake up those devices. If these packets become common, the devices will be forced to choose between a) bad battery life and b) violating the spec (or at least nullifying its utility) by dropping the packets. _______________________________________________ v6ops mailing list v6ops@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops
- [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-grand-01 - ad… Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-grand-01 … Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-grand-01 … Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-grand-01 … Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-grand-01 … Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-grand-01 … Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-grand-01 … Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-grand-01 … Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-grand-01 … Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-grand-01 … joel jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-grand-01 … Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-grand-01 … Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-grand-01 … Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-grand-01 … Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-grand-01 … Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-grand-01 … Owen DeLong
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-grand-01 … Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf… Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-grand-01 … Bob Hinden
- [v6ops] Improving ND security Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Improving ND security Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Improving ND security Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-grand-01 … Tony Finch
- [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Improving ND security Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-grand-01 … Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Improving ND security Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-grand-01 … Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] Improving ND security Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] Improving ND security Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Re: Improving ND security Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Improving ND security Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Improving ND security Bjoern A. Zeeb
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Improving ND security Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] Improving ND security Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-grand-01 … Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Improving ND security Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Improving ND security Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-grand-01 … Owen DeLong
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Re: Improving ND security Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Re: Improving ND security Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] Improving ND security Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Re: Improving ND security Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Re: Improving ND security Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Re: Improving ND security Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Re: Improving ND security Philip Homburg
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Re: Improving ND security Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Re: Improving ND security Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Re: Improving ND security Christian Huitema
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Re: Improving ND security Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Re: Improving ND security Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Re: Improving ND security Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Re: Improving ND security Templin (US), Fred L
- [v6ops] Off topic: Teredo sunset -- Re: [EXTERNAL… Lencse Gábor
- Re: [v6ops] Off topic: Teredo sunset -- Re: [EXTE… Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] Off topic: Teredo sunset -- Re: [EXTE… Joseph Touch
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-grand-01 … Michael Richardson
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-grand-01 … Michael Richardson
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf… Michael Richardson
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Improving ND security Michael Richardson
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-grand-01 … Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-grand-01 … Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-grand-01 … Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-6man-grand-01 … Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Improving ND security Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Re: Improving ND security Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Re: Improving ND security Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Re: Improving ND security Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Re: Improving ND security Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Re: Improving ND security Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Re: Improving ND security Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Re: Improving ND security Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Re: Improving ND security Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Philip Homburg
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Bob Hinden
- [v6ops] distributed vs centralized approaches to … Michael Richardson
- Re: [v6ops] distributed vs centralized approaches… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Bob Hinden
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Bob Hinden
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Michael Richardson
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Philip Homburg
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Re: draft-ietf-6man-grand … Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] draft-ietf-6man-grand : sa… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] Re: draft-ietf-6man-grand … Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] draft-ietf-6man-grand : sa… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Warren Kumari
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] draft-ietf-6man-grand : sa… Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] draft-ietf-6man-grand : sa… Manfredi (US), Albert E
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] [EXTERNAL] draft-ietf-6man-grand : sa… Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Philip Homburg
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Philip Homburg
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Gyan Mishra
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Templin (US), Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-6man-grand : saving lookups Templin (US), Fred L