Re: [v6ops] (RIPE Atlas) Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH filtering on the Internet

Vesna Manojlovic <BECHA@ripe.net> Tue, 05 November 2013 10:53 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] (RIPE Atlas) Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH filtering on the Internet
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Hi Tim, all,

On 05-nov.-13 04:38, Tim Chown wrote:
> While I love the idea of the Atlas project, and have a probe myself,
>  I tried asking them whether I could do just basic HTTP monitoring
> with  my probe,
> and that wasn’t possible, so I’m not optimistic that a general probe
>  user could just add such tests.

Currently, indeed, we do not support HTTP measurements for regular users 
-- while it is technically possible, and some researchers have done 
measurements project with very controlled parameters -- the policy of 
"allowed" targets is still under discussion.

> I suspect it would need some significant code updates from the
> developers. But measuring probe to probe would certainly be useful,

While not all the probes might be good targets, we have introduced
RIPE Atlas anchors specifically with this in mind -- willing targets, 
that also can take more measurements with regards to bandwidth.

Please see the list of features here:
https://atlas.ripe.net/about/anchors/
& here:
https://atlas.ripe.net/doc/anchors


> so it would be  nice to see at some point… some of the Atlas people
 > are here, so we might get some idea of a timeline if it is possible… > :)

We have few of the requests related to IPv6 & HTTP already on the 
roadmap, and we are waiting for more community input to help us 
prioritize them.
http://roadmap.ripe.net/ripe-atlas/

 From this discussion, I have noted
  +1 for HTTP measurements
  +1 for IPv6 extension headers
  "probe to probe" measurements

Please send your detailed suggestions to "MAT-WG" mailing list --
Measurements, Analysis & Tools:
http://www.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/mat-wg/

Thank you,
Vesna