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Re: [v6ops] Please review the No IPv4 draft

Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com> Fri, 18 April 2014 00:31 UTC

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From: Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 09:31:15 +0900
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Please review the No IPv4 draft
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On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 11:46 PM, Ted Lemon <ted.lemon@nominum.com> wrote:

> > Hard to tell since we're well past 200 messages at this point, but I
> think the solutions to this scenario that are being proposed are "put a
> legitimate IPv6 router to your network" (i.e., enable IPv6 on it) and
> "enable IPv6 RA guard + DHCPv6 guard on your network or block ethertype
> 0x86dd". All of those will require hardware upgrades in some networks.
>
> No, the solution was a bit more detailed than that, and did not involve RA
> guard.   You should probably wait for the next version of the draft and
> re-evaluate.
>

But will the solution address this issue? If not, then there's no point
waiting for a new version of the draft, right? You agree that if this is
not addressed, it's a substantial reason not to put this option in IPv6
provisioning protocols?

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