[v6ops] Re: The V6OPS WG has placed draft-cc-v6ops-wlcg-flow-label-marking in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"

Nick Buraglio <buraglio@forwardingplane.net> Fri, 26 July 2024 19:03 UTC

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Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2024 12:03:01 -0700
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On Fri, Jul 26, 2024 at 9:38 AM Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jul 26, 2024 at 9:32 AM Nick Buraglio
> <buraglio@forwardingplane.net> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 26, 2024 at 12:27 AM Gert Doering <gert@space.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 05:04:03PM -0700, Tom Herbert wrote:
> > > > Can you provide more information on this? Also, as "research" networks
> > > > it seems like there might be more latitude to be cutting edge and fix
> > > > problems with things like EH?
> >
> > "Research and Education" perhaps needs to be adjusted or better
> > defined, and those not in that community probably have no frame of
> > reference. In most cases an "R&E network" is a network dedicated to
> > connecting research facilities and educational institutions. In the
> > general case, these are not enterprise style networks, but are
> > purpose-built with the express reasoning that a typical enterprise
> > network cannot or will not accommodate their needs. They may consist
> > of "enterprise style" components, but they are - in general - built to
> > carry atypical traffic like large flows, massive data sets, and in
> > many cases to facilitate other types of research. For examples of how
> > many of these are tuned to accomplish this, see
> > https://fasterdata.es.net/
>
> Nick,
>
> If they're purpose built then doesn't that imply there's some level of
> customization that might be amenable to enabling extension headers
> throughout the network?

In some cases, yes. We could almost certainly do something in a
testbed such as FABRIC. Dale Carder (now cc'd) could probably speak to
that a bit better than I can.

>
> Tom
>
> >
> > >
> > > Over here, "research" networks are more enterprise-style networks providing
> > > Internet connectivity to universities.
> > >
> > > There is no network research going on, many of them even lacking IPv6
> > > support (because, "enterprise").
> > >
> > > Gert Doering
> > >         -- NetMaster
> > > --
> > > have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?
> > >
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