Re: [v6ops] Enterprises won't deploy IPv6 for IPv6's sake (as they didn't IPv4, IPX, XNS, or DECNet)

[Alexandru Petrescu <[e-mail]>]

Le 09/01/2014 18:28, Templin, Fred L a écrit :
> Hi Tim,
>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Tim Chown
>> [mailto:[e-mail]] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 9:24
>> AM To: Templin, Fred L Cc: Mark ZZZ Smith; Randy Bush; Ted Lemon;
>> [e-mail] Subject: Re: [v6ops] Enterprises won't deploy IPv6
>> for IPv6's sake (as they didn't IPv4, IPX, XNS, or DECNet)
>>
>>
>> On 9 Jan 2014, at 17:21, "Templin, Fred L"
>> <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Tim,
>>>
>>>> The campus wireless solutions I've seen from vendors to date
>>>> that support IPv6 do some "interesting" things to support
>>>> devices roaming between IPv6 wireless subnets.  They certainly
>>>> don't seem to use MIPv6, rather it seems common to use either
>>>> unicast RAs and/or L2 tunnelling between controllers. e.g. see
>>>
>>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps10315/products_tech_note09186a0080bae506.shtml#mobility.
>>>
>>>
>>>
I am thinking of mobiles that have WiFi plus 3G/4G. When the mobile is
>>> in proximity of my enterprise infrastructure then it can
>>> certainly be managed as it hops between WLCs as you suggest. But,
>>> when the mobile leaves the campus and goes in via a Starbucks
>>> WiFi (or maybe my home WiFi) it is beyond the management realm of
>>> the enterprise and has to do something if it wants to maintain a
>>> stable IP address/subnet. Or, if the mobile goes off the "WiFi
>>> grid" it has to fire up its 3G/4G link and then still somehow
>>> maintain stability.
>>
>> MPTCP?  A la Siri on iOS7 etc :)
>
> That won't get me to a mobile router - it only addresses the apps on
> the mobile itself.

YEs, and only apps using a particular transport protocols, not all.

(and yes the news of MPTCP at Apple is encouraging about that
  particular protocol).

>
>>> This is not about MIPv6 - it is about AERO:
>>
>> Well, the thread is about something else, so back to that....
>
> The thread is about IPv6 deployment in enterprise networks. AERO is
> about IPv6 deployment in enterprise networks (which should also be
> taken as input to your IPv6 enterprise deployment doc).

Right.  But since this thread relates to the DHCP discussion, would AERO
have an aspect related to DHCP?  Or to RA?  How would an AERO
Router self-configure its address, its mobile network prefix and its
default route?  Would it accept many combinations or just one?

Alex

>
> Thanks - Fred [e-mail]
>
>> Tim
>>
>>>
>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-templin-aerolink
>>>
>>> Thanks - Fred [e-mail]
>>>
>>> PS I shouldn't have to ask, but please keep this as plaintext
>>> instead of converting to something else.
>
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