Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis
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+1 Yes, the Internet Gateway Device (IGD) machinery is used between computer and UPnP/IGD to request the allocation of a port number to the CPE so that a pinhole can be created accordingly to allow access to the content requested by the terminal from the Internet. Best Regards, Tina TSOU http://tinatsou.weebly.com/contact.html -----Original Message----- From: v6ops-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:v6ops-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of mohamed.boucadair@orange.com Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 2:33 PM To: Hemant Singh (shemant) Cc: v6ops@ietf.org; MEILLAREC Loïc OLNC/NAD/TIP; draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis@tools.ietf.org; Ullio Mario Subject: Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis Re-, Not all the use cases require UPnP IGD; in particular see what I mentioned earlier: "* Just like current port forwarding in existing CPEs, we are envisaging to allow the configuration of port mappings using a User Interface. This will trigger PCP messages to be sent to the PCP Server controlling the DS-Lite AFTR." Cheers, Med -----Message d'origine----- De : Hemant Singh (shemant) [mailto:shemant@cisco.com] Envoyé : jeudi 20 octobre 2011 14:25 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed OLNC/NAD/TIP; Reinaldo Penno; Fred Baker (fred); Maglione Roberta; Alain Durand Cc : v6ops@ietf.org; Ullio Mario; draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis@tools.ietf.org; MEILLAREC Loïc OLNC/NAD/TIP Objet : RE: [v6ops] new draft: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis Med, DanW, and Reinaldo, Thanks for all your clarifications. The rfc6204bis document does not support UPnP for a feature and that is why I was wondering what would be the use case for PCP if the host behind the CE router does not support PCP. Now that I know you all are referring to UPnP, Barbara has already responded that she is willing to consider PCP client on the CE router WAN with UPnP. I agree with her. What IPv6 UPnP document is in RFC form right now for the CE router to consider UPnP? Regards, Hemant -----Original Message----- From: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com [mailto:mohamed.boucadair@orange.com] Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 6:01 AM To: Hemant Singh (shemant); Reinaldo Penno; Fred Baker (fred); Maglione Roberta; draft-ietf-pcp-base@tools.ietf.org; pcp-chairs@tools.ietf.org Cc: v6ops@ietf.org; Ullio Mario; draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis@tools.ietf.org; MEILLAREC Loïc OLNC/NAD/TIP Subject: RE: [v6ops] new draft: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis Dear Hemant, For that case, we are considering: * Enable a UPnP IGD/PCP Interworking function as specified for instance in: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bpw-pcp-upnp-igd-interworking-02 * Just like current port forwarding in existing CPEs, we are envisaging to allow the configuration of port mappings using a User Interface. This will trigger PCP messages to be sent to the PCP Server controlling the DS-Lite AFTR. For those who want to play with the PCP Client UI and IGD/PCP IWF, we made a code available at: http://opensourceaplusp.weebly.com/. Hope this answers your question. Cheers Med -----Message d'origine----- De : Hemant Singh (shemant) [mailto:shemant@cisco.com] Envoyé : jeudi 20 octobre 2011 01:14 À : Reinaldo Penno; BOUCADAIR Mohamed OLNC/NAD/TIP; Fred Baker (fred); Maglione Roberta; draft-ietf-pcp-base@tools.ietf.org; pcp-chairs@tools.ietf.org Cc : v6ops@ietf.org; Ullio Mario; draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis@tools.ietf.org; MEILLAREC Loïc OLNC/NAD/TIP Objet : RE: [v6ops] new draft: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis Reinaldo, Thanks, understood. However, my question to the DS-Lite folks is still not answered because I was told by them that DS-Lite needs PCP. So then I asked what if the Windows host behind the CE router does not support a PCP client, then what is the PCP server/proxy inside the CE router do for DS-Lite? Thus my question is still un-answered. Hemant -----Original Message----- From: Reinaldo Penno [mailto:rpenno@juniper.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 6:34 PM To: Hemant Singh (shemant); mohamed.boucadair@orange.com; Fred Baker (fred); Maglione Roberta; draft-ietf-pcp-base@tools.ietf.org; pcp-chairs@tools.ietf.org Cc: v6ops@ietf.org; Ullio Mario; draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis@tools.ietf.org; MEILLAREC Loïc OLNC/NAD/TIP Subject: Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis If windows does not implement PCP Client then the option is to implement: - UPnP/NAT-PMP - PCP IWF http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bpw-pcp-upnp-igd-interworking-02 I mean, assuming there is an application that wants to open ports. Thanks, Reinaldo On 10/19/11 3:21 PM, "Hemant Singh (shemant)" <shemant@cisco.com> wrote: _______________________________________________ v6ops mailing list v6ops@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops
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