Re: [v6ops] Flash renumbering

Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com> Sat, 19 September 2020 02:29 UTC

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 22:29:44 -0400
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Flash renumbering
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The whole issue with flash renumbering is related to PD.  Instead of
changing SLAAC to react better to flash renumbering event could we just
make PD sticky so it keeps your last prefix doled out similar to DHCPv4
where you get your last leased prefix.

Is that possible?

On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 10:13 PM Brian E Carpenter <
brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 19-Sep-20 09:21, Ole Troan wrote:
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> >> On 18 Sep 2020, at 22:57, Brian E Carpenter <
> brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >> On 19-Sep-20 05:11, Gyan Mishra wrote:
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> >>> All
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> >>> I really still feel this use case being Broadband provider PD related
> stale prefix issue  is really a corner case for SOHO users
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> >> Why is that a "corner case"? We can count SOHO networks by the hundreds
> of millions, compared with enterprise networks in millions. They both
> matter, but SOHOs are about two orders of magnitude greater in number.
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> > Corner case because Service Providers generally do not flash renumber
> their customers.
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> Can you put a percentage on that? Where I live, they do, whenever there's
> a glitch on the local loop, even if the local loop is made of glass.
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>     Brian
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