Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6rtr-reqs
David Farmer <farmer@umn.edu> Fri, 05 January 2018 13:41 UTC
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From: David Farmer <farmer@umn.edu>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6rtr-reqs
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On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 8:01 PM, Brian E Carpenter < brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote: > On 05/01/2018 14:32, Lorenzo Colitti wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 7:28 AM, <7riw77@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> As the implementer of devices that are sometimes IPv6 routers, I object > >> to the > >>> requirement that such devices MUST implement DHCPv6. The reason is that > >>> implementing DHCPv6 will degrade the user experience. > >>> See https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/v6ops/current/msg26286.html > >>> for an example of how that can happen. > >> > >> Being required to implement DHCPv6 is far different than being required > to > >> _turn it on by default_ -- the draft specifically does not require > DHCPv6 > >> to be turned on by default for this very reason. > > > > > > Help me understand. Are you saying that mobile hotspots should implement > > DHCPv6 because this draft says so, but then never turn it on because it's > > bad for their users? > > Lorenzo, are you saying that the requirements in this draft need to be > scoped? That doesn't sound unreasonable, but if so, what would the > scoping text look like? > While not specifically or plainly stated in the document, I remember from early discussion of this document that this was intended to be focused on enterprise and/or carrier grade routers and not CPE or consumer grade routers, in fact we already have documents for CPE IPv6 routers (RFC7084). I think this is supported by the fact that this document discusses subjects like MPLS, YANG, etc... Thanks. -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================
- [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6rt… Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… David Farmer
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Dale W. Carder
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… 7riw77
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… David Farmer
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… 7riw77
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… 7riw77
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… David Farmer
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Bob Hinden
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… 7riw77
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… 7riw77
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… STARK, BARBARA H
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… STARK, BARBARA H
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Bob Hinden
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… 7riw77
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Tim Chown
- [v6ops] "SDN" [was Re: Discussion focus: draft-ie… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] Discussion focus: draft-ietf-v6ops-ip… Bob Hinden