Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-yc-v6ops-solicited-ra-unicast

Alexandru Petrescu <alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com> Wed, 22 July 2015 15:25 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-yc-v6ops-solicited-ra-unicast
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I agree, 'green devices' is right.

But dont make it that multicast is expensive in terms of energy. 
Actually multicast is a tool to make devices save on energy.

Alex

Le 22/07/2015 16:27, Jared Mauch a écrit :
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 03:15:33PM +0200, Lorenzo Colitti wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Alexandru Petrescu <
>> alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, we can change "battery-powered" to "exclusively battery-powered" in
>>>> the next revision of the draft.
>>>>
>>>
>>> No, I didnt mean that.
>>>
>>> Maybe "exclusively li-ion 7.2V 700maH batteries".
>>>
>>
>> "Devices where network communication has non-negligible affect on battery
>> life"
>
> 	While this is clearly obvious on devices that require sipping
> power that they are not working right, it may exist in other devices
> or poorly implemented hardware on wired devices which are asleep.  Dave
> Thaler talked yesterday about the logo requirements for MSFT in the hardware
> to do ARP and NDP offload.
>
> 	I suspect instead of arguging about the nits here some generic
> text would be most constructive.  Call it "Green" to use lower power
> by having unicast vs multicast/broadcast traffic.
>
> 	- Jared
>