Re: [v6ops] draft-moreiras-v6ops-rfc3849bis-00

Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> Mon, 12 August 2013 21:11 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] draft-moreiras-v6ops-rfc3849bis-00
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But having obviously different prefixes for the class to use to indicate what is ULA and what is "simulated GUA" is still very useful from a teaching perspective.

Owen

On Aug 12, 2013, at 1:30 PM, "George, Wes" <wesley.george@twcable.com> wrote:

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> From: Owen DeLong [mailto:owen@delong.com] 
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> Because in some cases, the lab is also teaching about ULA+GUA configurations.
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> [WEG] I don’t follow your logic. 2001:db8::/32 is not GUA, nor would any such documentation prefix be –quite the contrary, in fact. It just happens to come from 2000::/3 so it *looks* more like GUA, but the network behavior is no different.
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> Wes
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> On Aug 12, 2013, at 13:05 , "George, Wes" <wesley.george@twcable.com> wrote:
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> From: v6ops-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:v6ops-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo
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> As far as I understand, Antonio does some training involving 6RD deployments, where each 'team' needs its own /32. There might be other cases though, like for example doing some work involving BGP routing between different teams and for which you expect each one of them to carve a /32.
> [WEG] and that environment can’t use ULA because….?
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> Not saying that there aren’t legitimate cases when having more than /32 of documentation space might be useful, just saying that I don’t believe the needs of a lab environment (even in the context of training) is necessarily one of them.
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