Re: [v6ops] Incremental Deployment of IPv6-only Wi-Fi for IETF Meetings

JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@consulintel.es> Mon, 17 July 2017 08:34 UTC

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Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 10:33:35 +0200
From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@consulintel.es>
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CC: Jim Martin <jim@daedelus.com>, Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>, Suresh Krishnan <suresh.krishnan@gmail.com>, Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in>, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
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Thread-Topic: [v6ops] Incremental Deployment of IPv6-only Wi-Fi for IETF Meetings
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Incremental Deployment of IPv6-only Wi-Fi for IETF Meetings
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May be, but it means that customers with use old apps with literals, go and complain to their operators, and probably switch to another operator. I don’t think this is a good advice to operators or enterprise network admins to deploy IPv6-only in their LANs.

I fully agree about IPv6-only in the WAN and IPv4 as a service in the LANs.

Regards,
Jordi
 

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De: Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com>
Responder a: <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com>
Fecha: lunes, 17 de julio de 2017, 10:22
Para: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@consulintel.es>
CC: IPv6 Ops WG <v6ops@ietf.org>, Jim Martin <jim@daedelus.com>, Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>, Suresh Krishnan <suresh.krishnan@gmail.com>, Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in>, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
Asunto: Re: [v6ops] Incremental Deployment of IPv6-only Wi-Fi for IETF Meetings

    
    
    > On Jul 17, 2017, at 10:17 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@consulintel.es> wrote:
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    > In the real world, you will not disable IPv4 in the LANs of end-users or enterprise customers (at least not now, may be in 3-5 years from now). This is what IETF need to test now. IPv6 only with IPv4 as a service (which is 464XLAT).
    
    In the real world, there are networks that are doing this now. 



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