Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-requirements-01

Re-,

draft-binet-* assumes both DS and IPv6-only deployment modes. Nothing specific there.

Cheers,
Med

>-----Message d'origine-----
>De : jouni korhonen [mailto:jouni.nospam@gmail.com] 
>Envoyé : vendredi 16 novembre 2012 14:09
>À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed OLNC/OLN
>Cc : v6ops@ietf.org WG
>Objet : Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-requirements-01
>
>
>Med,
>
>I still see no reason to replicate information since what 
>comes to "a pure IPv6 profile for a 3GPP link", it should be 
>exactly the same in both documents. I am just trying to avoid 
>misalignment now and in the future. I would also argue that 
>draft-binet-* is a profile for a specific deployment(s) in 
>mind, not a generic IPv6 profile for cellular. It is a way 
>more (not that it would be a bad thing though..).
>
>- Jouni
>
>
>On Nov 16, 2012, at 2:07 PM, <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> 
><mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jouni,
>> 
>> What I understood from the v6ops meeting is that wg 
>participants see these two documents have distinct objectives. 
>As such the question of overlapping does not apply as these 
>documents serve two distinct objectives. Furthermore, because 
>draft-binet-*'s objective is to define an IPv6 profile for 
>cellular, we prefer the document be self-contained and use 
>consistent language for all requirements.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Med 
>> 
>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>> De : Jouni [mailto:jouni.nospam@gmail.com] 
>>> Envoyé : jeudi 15 novembre 2012 16:40
>>> À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed OLNC/OLN
>>> Cc : v6ops@ietf.org; Mikael Abrahamsson; Pete Vickers
>>> Objet : Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-requirements-01
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Med,
>>> 
>>> I am slightly confused about the overlap of 
>>> draft-binet-v6ops-* and draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc3316bis. My 
>>> recollection was that overlaps were supposed to be removed and 
>>> then concentrate on the remaining part in draft-binet-v6ops-*, 
>>> no? This would concern requirements #1, #6, #7, #8, #9, #17, 
>>> #22, #23, #25, #26, #27. My recommendation would be removing 
>>> those and just reference to [draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc3316bis] 
>>> because the base IPv6 compliancy would come from there and I 
>>> see no reason to repeat those here.
>>> 
>>> Then a question about the relevance of #24. Given the current 
>>> bandwidth in 3G/LTE is there really a need to compress 
>>> headers? And if people really see it as a life critical 
>>> feature to have, I would appreciate listing the ROHC profiles 
>>> that are essential (e.g., align with IR.92 & IR.58 that will 
>>> be implemented on the network side).
>>> 
>>> - Jouni
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2012, at 4:59 PM, <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> 
>>> <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Dear all,
>>>> 
>>>> We submitted a new version of the draft to take into account 
>>> the comments received from M. Abrahamsson and P. Vickers.
>>>> 
>>>> The main changes are:
>>>> 
>>>> * Add some clarification text for REQ#3
>>>> * Mention stateless dhcpv6 is useful to retrieve other 
>>> information than DNS
>>>> * Re-word REQ#15
>>>> * Cite "Happy Eyeballs" in REQ#16
>>>> * Update the text of REQ#17
>>>> * Add two sub-requirements to REQ#19: IPv6-only 
>connectivity + SLAAC
>>>> * Precise the ordering in REQ#21
>>>> 
>>>> A more detailed diff is available at:
>>>> 
>>> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-hos
>>> t-requirements-01
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Chairs, would it be possible to issue a Call For Adoption 
>>> for this document? Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Med
>>>> 
>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>> De : i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org 
>>> [mailto:i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de 
>>> internet-drafts@ietf.org
>>>> Envoyé : jeudi 15 novembre 2012 15:53
>>>> À : i-d-announce@ietf.org
>>>> Objet : I-D Action: 
>>> draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-requirements-01.txt
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line 
>>> Internet-Drafts directories.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 	Title           : Internet Protocol Version 6 (IPv6) 
>>> Requirements for Cellular Hosts
>>>> 	Author(s)       : David Binet
>>>>                         Mohamed Boucadair
>>>>                         Ales Vizdal
>>>>                         Cameron Byrne
>>>>                         Gang Chen
>>>> 	Filename        : 
>>> draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-requirements-01.txt
>>>> 	Pages           : 16
>>>> 	Date            : 2012-11-15
>>>> 
>>>> Abstract:
>>>>  This document lists a set of IPv6-related requirements to be
>>>>  supported by cellular hosts.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>>>> 
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-hos
>>> t-requirements
>>>> 
>>>> There's also a htmlized version available at:
>>>> 
>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-requ
>>> irements-01
>>>> 
>>>> A diff from the previous version is available at:
>>>> 
>>> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-hos
>>> t-requirements-01
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
>>>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
>>>> 
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