Re: [v6ops] IPv6-only mobile ISP alliance

<nick.heatley@bt.com> Thu, 11 January 2018 17:51 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] IPv6-only mobile ISP alliance
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I agree that most people consider "IPv6 only" in mobile networks to mean
IPv6 PDP Type, as opposed to the IPv4IPv6 PDP Type.

When times comes, maybe we will want to to write down a common definition of "IPv6 only", and then we'll see.

Alex, When seeking a common definition it is best to go with the one most people consider 😊