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Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Thu, 12 November 2015 23:50 UTC

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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Subject: [v6ops] PI heresy
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On 13/11/2015 10:48, Mark Andrews wrote:
> 
> In message <95BC3D07-EF27-45A9-A1E0-12F9B43061C7@delong.com>, Owen DeLong write
> s:
>>
>>> On Nov 12, 2015, at 11:43 , Gert Doering <gert@space.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:36:06AM -0800, Owen DeLong wrote:
>>>>> The IETF world does not (at least "should not") revolve around "companies
>> ",
>>>>> and I wish you good luck finding a SoHo ISP that will route your PI space
>> .
>>>>
>>>> 2620:0:930::/48
>>>
>>> This is not a typical SoHo ISP.
>>>
>>> Try finding one which is not your employer.
>>
>> neither of the upstreams for that address employs me at this time.
>>
>> Admittedly I did use to work for ONE of the two, but anyone can get that one 
>> to route their /48.
> 
> And how many SME's are there in the world?  This paper [1] puts the
> number at 125M MSME world wide.  That's 125M routing slots if
> everyone gets a /48.

Thanks for that reference. My estimate of 10M was based on some hand-waving
arguments about how many SMEs might seriously want to be multihomed; IMHO
most of them will be perfectly happy with PA addressing because they will
have anything that needs a stable address hosted anyway. Most SOHOs just don't
care, and get renumbered without knowing it after power fails etc. Homenet
takes this as a given, of course.

    Brian


> 
> Mark
> 
> [1] http://www.ifc.org/wps/wcm/connect/9ae1dd80495860d6a482b519583b6d16/MSME-CI-AnalysisNote.pdf?MOD=AJPERES
> 
>> Owen
>>
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