Re: [v6ops] DANIR questions draft-shytyi-v6ops-danir-04

Mark Smith <markzzzsmith@gmail.com> Tue, 12 November 2019 11:13 UTC

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From: Mark Smith <markzzzsmith@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 22:12:50 +1100
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] DANIR questions draft-shytyi-v6ops-danir-04
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Missed a few words, touchscreen keyboard!

On Tue, 12 Nov 2019, 22:09 Mark Smith, <markzzzsmith@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, 12 Nov 2019, 20:42 Alexandre Petrescu, <
> alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello participants to v6ops WG,
>>
>> With respect to draft-shytyi-v6ops-danir-04, of which I am a co-author,
>> I would like to ask:
>>
>> - do you think it is useful that smartphones run DHCPv6-PD clients on
>>    their 4G interfaces?
>>
>
> Broadly yes as that would be a conventional IPv6 router WAN behaviour.
>
> Trouble from that perspective with smartphones is how that fits with 3GPPs
> worldview.
>
>
>> - do you think a router behaviour where it runs a Client DHCPv6-PD on
>>    one side, derive sub-prefixes and subsequently run SLAAC RA on the
>>    other side - has been described somewhere else than in this DANIR
>>    draft?
>>
>
> Yes, it is described in RFC 7084.
>
> I think a variation of DHCPv6
>

a variation of a DHCPv6 relay

between the downstream and upstream interfaces would be better because a
> DHCPv6 relay is DHCPv6 option transparent.
>
> The combination of a client and a server limits the options that can be
> passed between the upstream and downstream interfaces. To support passing
> new options, they would have to be upgraded; a DHCPv6 relay wouldn't.
>
> IPv6 CE Device DHCPv6 Option Transparency
>
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-smith-v6ops-ce-dhcpv6-transparency-00
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark.
>
>
>
>> Yours,
>>
>> Alex
>>
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