Re: [v6ops] [GROW] Deaggregation by large organizations

Enno Rey <erey@ernw.de> Thu, 16 October 2014 17:16 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] [GROW] Deaggregation by large organizations
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Hi,

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 06:56:32PM +0200, Jeroen Massar wrote:
> > to put it equally bluntly, those folks wonder: "hey, we pay a hell lot of money to our uplink providers and they fail to deliver what we contracted, that is transporting our traffic".
> > see the examples in https://www.ernw.de/download/RIPE69_Rey_Langner_Slash48_Considered_Harmful_v082_DRAFT.pdf.
> 
> There is a reason why there are PA and PI blocks... or you know, pay for
> transiting the aggregate...

well ... yes.
not sure to what extent $RIRs act accordingly (have been involved in requesting resources from all five of them in the past and can tell you 1st hand that there's quite some encouraging $LARGE_ENTERPRISES to bec
ome LIRs, in one way or the other). there must be a reason, why - as far as I can tell - _pretty much all_ large German companies have joined the elitist LIR club in the last two years, preparing their IPv6 depl
oyment. RIRs are happily playing that game which is exactly why debate & consensus are needed (and probably Iljitsch brought this to BCOP).

that said, $FOLK would pay for it. $YOUR_EMPLOYER has a product with "we guarantee routing your IPv6 more specifics up to /48 for a monthly $FEE" property? Let me know, I'm sure many $FOLKs would be interested in that.
leaving them "in the dark" and dependent on the goodwill of (my personal perspective, based on statistics from RIPE RIS: outdated) strict filtering doesn't help anybody.

best

Enno



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