Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-ula-usage-recommendations - work or abandon?

Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org> Fri, 13 November 2015 21:39 UTC

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On 13/11/2015 13:50, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
> If the Internet will have 10x the number of routes it has today in the
> not-so-distant-future, there is a considerable risk that most smaller
> players won't be able to afford to have a full view.

the dfz is growing linearly at ~50k prefixes/year.  On this basis, 10x the
number of prefixes is a very long way away.

Nick