Re: [v6ops] IPv6-only section [draft-ietf-v6ops-enterprise-incremental-ipv6 WGLC]
Gert Doering <gert@space.net> Fri, 09 August 2013 07:02 UTC
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] IPv6-only section [draft-ietf-v6ops-enterprise-incremental-ipv6 WGLC]
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Hi, On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 08:59:36AM +0200, Ray Hunter wrote: > Show me an enterprise carrier or managed service provider or router > vendor who charges more for their MPLS solution or managed service or > device for IPv4 support. I can show you plenty where IPv6 is a "premium > service." Until IPv4 becomes a "premium service" there's simply no > business case. Vendor costs are not the point. The point is that operationally (OPEX), a dual-stack network costs more than a single-stack network. Maybe you should just try this for a while, so you know what it feels to have to do every DNS change twice, maintain two sets of firewall rules, etc...? Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (89) 32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279
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