Re: [v6ops] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc6555bis-05: (with COMMENT)

Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Fri, 20 October 2017 21:31 UTC

Return-Path: <ekr@rtfm.com>
X-Original-To: v6ops@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: v6ops@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C114E134315 for <v6ops@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 14:31:12 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.598
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=rtfm-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UaFln9a4oqBY for <v6ops@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 14:31:11 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-yw0-x233.google.com (mail-yw0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA54D1342E5 for <v6ops@ietf.org>; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 14:31:10 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail-yw0-x233.google.com with SMTP id q126so4593033ywq.10 for <v6ops@ietf.org>; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 14:31:10 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rtfm-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=E9/AYqSFu8LnrDFRe8uNrsNycqIWldVV7DYzB4tkGBA=; b=0RPdgNcsOdp/neUHwnFWs3Ukh0qTU2JpdWdPqhw/tV6HR7QHwXPRzzfqMkqUJ/AMfv UZYvBmA/QGjh16htYV4Skwo49PYX1PiQOLOCyqgix+rhZ5WW2stEG5N3MI18oUUjydBa lZ1XLkvvXZccI7hF6mVMNvtlvBC9K3M4fC5JC+YbXsE/yBZGVj131TnOyyDFJaKgDheo AnZ7fHJkyemUcxi5CoWb6Oq+SJ/AUafoVpxWy1c3uHhju+WLhNwhwKwEGSq4RaFe7/pd oWj5TSyb7XuHOfdjI4PqBAAgX7J2kFp9ZAir/l00v0q+xZjzr1MqTm0EYhDAaGTJs41V cLHg==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=E9/AYqSFu8LnrDFRe8uNrsNycqIWldVV7DYzB4tkGBA=; b=R1MLq0PK1Vya7qfR8/1uBA/dGeMcfqqWXu/YOcOuZ93nA2ve+rGFbTi5IVBSdmbSx8 M8lV9JtfpIqdWk29dFp/Wokc/FB77mBx3sU+Op+8yB9sq9Nqa9go9f2IHC9cz0BHH5GK Bd6kP3qlysuOKAxhC+2LfRC+rtA3Ebs7ZyhEgt7cUW/TylhUSTmfPXAS/ylCrcePtRpZ eJm9QOBWbNt0fwy9UZFmEXWHo++GuJ7OW+v52p3J2ize22T2SoJisLyEgu6VKr5DNwM8 yG+orqZ9z+PSz+grlj6iXE2zkcK8FhosE4YUX+HIdkD2w5FOTvnXifuLQFfJ1wNp1qkl jhDA==
X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaXhUiOXo+tgL21wyl93aFLG++FTm0nFVCepb0+z5N9kFp6Hz4WB AXZhcaKLZPNHN79k+eq5enkXe0VeCPqxnODiWqpjIw==
X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+Ryush4qojcAsT6a2AtXm3tdnL6XKzVqNdIp591AVwgQ33brr0r/krzxRCiKw5O+bF5o/yMooESVpOHlfk71bs=
X-Received: by 10.37.20.6 with SMTP id 6mr4175775ybu.339.1508535070128; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 14:31:10 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Received: by 10.129.75.194 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 14:30:29 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <eb737375-1bf5-1e1d-3539-2821058870c5@gmail.com>
References: <150853234997.15403.8100492287000664954.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <eb737375-1bf5-1e1d-3539-2821058870c5@gmail.com>
From: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 14:30:29 -0700
Message-ID: <CABcZeBMA4qiWMFDWmcFLpmTsOm096YHggY1yrx4A3-TuHjGR=Q@mail.gmail.com>
To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
Cc: The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>, draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc6555bis@ietf.org, v6ops-chairs@ietf.org, v6ops@ietf.org
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a113d2b94fc8fb2055c0130f9"
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/v6ops/MDgjMbXPHOr-wbSiXcBKC3IZAcs>
Subject: Re: [v6ops] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc6555bis-05: (with COMMENT)
X-BeenThere: v6ops@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22
Precedence: list
List-Id: v6ops discussion list <v6ops.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/v6ops>, <mailto:v6ops-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/v6ops/>
List-Post: <mailto:v6ops@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:v6ops-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops>, <mailto:v6ops-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 21:31:13 -0000

On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 2:11 PM, Brian E Carpenter <
brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:

> Eric,
>
> On 21/10/2017 09:45, Eric Rescorla wrote:
> > Eric Rescorla has entered the following ballot position for
> > draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc6555bis-05: No Objection
> >
> > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all
> > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this
> > introductory paragraph, however.)
> >
> >
> > Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/stat
> ement/discuss-criteria.html
> > for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions.
> >
> >
> > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc6555bis/
> >
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > COMMENT:
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > This document should provide a rationale for why you are favoring v6
> over v4
> > addresses when v4 addresses resolve first. Is there some technical reason
> > (e.g., it works better) or is there just a political reason (we want to
> push
> > people to v6).
>
> I don't think that's a political desire. IPv6 in general works better,
> because it isn't encumbered by NAT.


Can you please provide a reference to a measurement showing that this is
true?
-Ekr

So we want to push people to v6
> for technical reasons.
>



>    Brian
>
> > I could live with either, but the document should be clear IMO.
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > v6ops mailing list
> > v6ops@ietf.org
> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops
> >
>