Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-host-addr-availability discussion

Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com> Tue, 03 November 2015 08:02 UTC

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From: Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com>
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2015 17:02:02 +0900
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-host-addr-availability discussion
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On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 4:40 PM, David Farmer <farmer@umn.edu> wrote:

> I'm not stuck on those words, I'm just looking for something that
> acknowledges if networks impose no hard limit on the number of IPv6
> addresses, that is not a excuse for hosts and applications to go crazy.
>
> Furthermore, I'm a little worried if I set a threshold of lets say 1000
> IPv6 addresses and then quarantine a host as a network abuser, am I
> violating the spirit of this draft? Is 500 too low? 250?
>

I think this concern can be addressed without placing requirements on the
host and thus host creep. For example, would it address your concerns if
the draft said that a network can pose limits on IPv6 addresses if the
device uses an unreasonable number of addresses (e.g., hundreds)?