Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-prefix-per-host-02 - multiple prefixes per device
Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Mon, 20 March 2017 13:01 UTC
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-prefix-per-host-02 - multiple prefixes per device
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Le 20/03/2017 à 12:46, Ross Chandler a écrit : > >> On 20 Mar 2017, at 09:28, Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com> >> wrote: >> >> Given that this is an operational draft, then I would suggest an >> applicability statement: state that DHCPv6 PD is better, but also >> state that best *current* practice is to provide a /64 via RA, >> because currently very few hosts have DHCPv6 PD clients and >> providing PD on the network side is not going to help the vast >> majority of clients. >> >> Using shared links on public deployments with untrusted hosts has >> all sorts of security and scalability issues (ND spoofing, DAD >> spoofing, ND cache exhaustion attacks, etc.) /64 to the host is >> just a much better solution. > > > > It might also be worth noting in the draft how 3GPP TS.23401 > 5.3.1.2.6 says prefix shorter than /64 assignment to UEs should > work. A-ha! > "Optionally a single network prefix shorter than the default /64 > prefix may be assigned to a PDN connection. In this case, the /64 > default prefix used for IPv6 stateless autoconfiguration will be > allocated from this network prefix; the remaining address space from > the network prefix can be delegated to the PDN connection using > prefix delegation after the default bearer establishment and IPv6 > prefix allocation via IPv6 stateless address autoconfiguration as > defined in clause 5.3.1.2.2.” > > “The UE uses DHCPv6 to request additional IPv6 prefixes (i.e. > prefixes in addition to the default prefix) from the PDN GW after > completing stateless IPv6 address autoconfiguration procedures.” This seems to indicate that the PDN GW plays both a role of DHCPv6-PD Requesting Router aka DHCPv6 Client (when it gets "assigned" a shorter-than-64 prefix) _and_ the role of DHCPv6-PD Delegating Router aka DHCPv6 Server (when it delegates additional IPv6 prefixes to the UE). This is a little bit awkward for setting up routing. It would be simpler if the PDN GW were a DHCPv6 Relay. Has it been considered to make the PDN GW a DHCPv6 Relay? > Having a single contiguous prefix is allowed for by specifying the > minor extra detail of prefix length in CDRs. It makes sense to have a single contiguous prefix, in some cases. It could also make sense to set an entire /47 to that PDN GW, and run a DHCPv6 Server on PDN GWs and nowhere else. It comes down to these two non-awkward options: either set a DHCPv6 Server in each PDN GW, or a single DHCPv6 Server deeper in the core accompanied by many DHCPv6 Relays in each PDN GW. Alex > > Ross > > > > _______________________________________________ v6ops mailing list > v6ops@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops >
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Ron Bonica
- [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-prefix… Ron Bonica
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Tim Chown
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… otroan
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… joel jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… otroan
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Tim Chown
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… otroan
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… otroan
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… otroan
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… james woodyatt
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Mark Andrews
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Joe Touch
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Philip Homburg
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Mark Andrews
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Ross Chandler
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Ross Chandler
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Ross Chandler
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Templin, Fred L