Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profile last call

Gert Doering <gert@space.net> Fri, 30 January 2015 16:41 UTC

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From: Gert Doering <gert@space.net>
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Hi,

On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 04:35:07PM +0000, Nick Hilliard wrote:
> the WG position hasn't materially changed; the document has.

To some extent, reality has changed.  There are a number of large scale
production wireless 3G/4G deployments out there, so the claim "it cannot 
be done because handsets sucks" is most definitely no longer true.

And, as Lorenzo stated, none of these handsets (that work well in 
practice!) fulfills the shopping list in this draft...  which gives that 
the requirements are not needed for successful deployment, and *that*
makes the whole document slightly... superfluous.

Gert Doering
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