Re: [v6ops] [GROW] Deaggregation by large organizations

Jeroen Massar <jeroen@massar.ch> Thu, 16 October 2014 16:56 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] [GROW] Deaggregation by large organizations
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On 2014-10-16 18:22, Enno Rey wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:11:41AM -0400, Christopher Morrow wrote:
> 
>>
>> So, some folk thought: "Hey, not announcing my aggregate and not
>> providing connectivity between the aggregate announcement and the
>> little islands I created is a grand plan!" and were surprised when
>> things went badly...
> 
> well, $FOLK might have good reasons to act in that way, based on their business models and network design.
> 
> to put it equally bluntly, those folks wonder: "hey, we pay a hell lot of money to our uplink providers and they fail to deliver what we contracted, that is transporting our traffic".
> see the examples in https://www.ernw.de/download/RIPE69_Rey_Langner_Slash48_Considered_Harmful_v082_DRAFT.pdf.

There is a reason why there are PA and PI blocks... or you know, pay for
transiting the aggregate...

Greets,
 Jeroen