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Re: [v6ops] Alissa Cooper's Discuss on draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-slaac-renum-05: (with DISCUSS)

"Bernie Volz (volz)" <volz@cisco.com> Thu, 22 October 2020 14:06 UTC

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From: "Bernie Volz (volz)" <volz@cisco.com>
To: Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com>, Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Alissa Cooper's Discuss on draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-slaac-renum-05: (with DISCUSS)
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Also, given that the document it is updating is RFC7084 which itself is INFORMATIONAL, hard to see why this would not be the same?


  *   Bernie

From: Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com>
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To: Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Alissa Cooper's Discuss on draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-slaac-renum-05: (with DISCUSS)

On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 10:17 PM Alissa Cooper via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org<mailto:noreply@ietf.org>> wrote:
Alissa Cooper has entered the following ballot position for
draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-slaac-renum-05: Discuss
[...]
DISCUSS:
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Let's resolve the document status issue -- it was last-called as Proposed
Standard, it's listed as Informational, but it seems like it should be a BCP.

I support Rob's DISCUSS and I believe the RFC 8174 boilerplate should be used.

I don't think this should be classified as BCP without sending it to the WG for another look. WG consensus was reached on the assumption that the intended status was informational. I suspect many WG participants would have looked at the text with different eyes, and held it to a different/higher standard, if the intended status had been BCP. I know for sure that I would have.

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