Re: [v6ops] Very basic question: What is IPv6 native?

Hi Alejandro,

I need to think it twice, just to be safe, but in principle I agree with adding the text that you’re suggesting.

Regards,

Jordi

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El 18/7/19 23:51, "v6ops en nombre de Alejandro Acosta" <v6ops-bounces@ietf.org en nombre de alejandroacostaalamo@gmail.com> escribió:

Hello Jordi,

  Thanks for this, I was not aware of this draft.  I'm happy the definition is in a document, hopefully it moves forward in the WG. Hard to believe so many documents mention "native IPv6" without a clear definition (well, assumptions are just fine but much better to write it down)

  So far I like this definition (copy/pasted from your doc):

5.  Native dual-stack

   This can be applied to a host, router, link, network (part), etc.  It
   means that both, IPv4 and IPv6 are configured/used natively (without
   the need of transition mechanisms).

  The part: "without the need of transition mechanisms" imho is the key.

  If you allow me to say something, you can add to your text: "without the need of transition mechanisms such as encapsulation, protocol translations and/or packet modifications". Adding this won't hurt.

  Thanks, good luck.

Alejandro,

On 7/18/19 4:00 PM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
Hi Alejandro,

May be something for adding some more text into:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-palet-v6ops-ipv6-only/

Let me know if the existing text is sufficient, or what do you suggest to add.

Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet

El 18/7/19 21:57, "v6ops en nombre de Alejandro Acosta" <v6ops-bounces@ietf.org en nombre de alejandroacostaalamo@gmail.com> escribió:

    Hello there,

      Sorry if this is not the place to ask this.

      I was looking for the concept of "Native IPv6" with no luck.

      I performed a search in google restricting the results inside
    ietf.org. However even when a lot of results with the string "IPv6
    Native" the concept/description/meaning of what IPv6 native is did not
    show up. Among the results I found:

    https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6751 (Native IPv6 behind IPv4-to-IPv4 NAT
    Customer Premises Equipment)

    https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-v6ops-rfc7084-bis-00.html (Basic
    Requirements for IPv6 Customer Edge Routers)

    https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-lopez-v6ops-dc-ipv6-05.html (IPv6
    Operational Guidelines for Datacenters)

    https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7381 ()

      And I found this old thread which refer to this very same topic:

      https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/KkkOMeinS-l9i_SaViVXHuRw20A

      Is there any document that I might be missing that officially
    describes the concept/meaning of "Native IPv6"?

    Thanks a lot,

    Alejandro,

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