[v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UPnP IGD)
Dan Wing <danwing@gmail.com> Thu, 01 August 2024 19:07 UTC
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On Jul 28, 2024, at 7:01 AM, Daryll Swer <contact=40daryllswer.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > I'm all in for PCP signalling to open a port in the stateful firewall as I originally described, and PCP shouldn't encourage locking of the ecosystem to just TCP/UDP, it should support all standardised layer 4 protocols (DCCP, UDP-Lite, SCTP, maybe more). https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc6887#section-2.2, The PCP Opcodes defined in this document are designed to support transport-layer protocols that use a 16-bit port number (e.g., TCP, UDP, Stream Control Transmission Protocol (SCTP) [RFC4960], and Datagram Congestion Control Protocol (DCCP) [RFC4340]). Protocols that do not use a port number (e.g., Resource Reservation Protocol (RSVP), IP Encapsulating Security Payload (ESP) [RFC4303], ICMP, and ICMPv6) are supported for IPv4 firewall, IPv6 firewall, and NPTv6 functions, but are out of scope for any NAT functions. The protocol supports other protocols, but I bet most/all implementations do not bother handling anything beyond TCP and UDP. That's pretty typical for lots of network gear (router ACLs, firewalls, and of course NAT/NAPT). Running over UDP is a long-standing workaround ("solution") for various protocols like IPsec (RFC3948), SCTP (RFC6951), and DCCP (RFC6773). The overhead of the UDP header is not ideal, but UDP is deployable on the Internet. -d
- [v6ops] Traffic control protocols (PCP and UPnP I… Stuart Cheshire
- [v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UP… Ted Lemon
- [v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UP… Kawashima Masanobu(川島 正伸)
- [v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UP… jordi.palet@consulintel.es
- [v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UP… Kawashima Masanobu(川島 正伸)
- [v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UP… Ted Lemon
- [v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UP… Kawashima Masanobu(川島 正伸)
- [v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UP… Ole Troan
- [v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UP… Daryll Swer
- [v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UP… Ted Lemon
- [v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UP… Daryll Swer
- [v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UP… Ted Lemon
- [v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UP… mohamed.boucadair
- [v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UP… Daryll Swer
- [v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UP… Kawashima Masanobu(川島 正伸)
- [v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UP… Daryll Swer
- [v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UP… Kawashima Masanobu(川島 正伸)
- [v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UP… Daryll Swer
- [v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UP… Brian Candler
- [v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UP… Daryll Swer
- [v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UP… Kawashima Masanobu(川島 正伸)
- [v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UP… Kawashima Masanobu(川島 正伸)
- [v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UP… Daryll Swer
- [v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UP… jordi.palet@consulintel.es
- [v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UP… Daryll Swer
- [v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UP… Kawashima Masanobu(川島 正伸)
- [v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UP… Brian Candler
- [v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UP… Gert Doering
- [v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UP… Daryll Swer
- [v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UP… Ted Lemon
- [v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UP… Gert Doering
- [v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UP… Ted Lemon
- [v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UP… Gert Doering
- [v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UP… Ted Lemon
- [v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UP… Gert Doering
- [v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UP… Ted Lemon
- [v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UP… Daryll Swer
- [v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UP… Dan Wing
- [v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UP… Daryll Swer
- [v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UP… Dan Wing
- [v6ops] Re: Traffic control protocols (PCP and UP… Daryll Swer