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Re: [v6ops] draft-vf-v6ops-ipv6-deployment

Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> Mon, 29 March 2021 09:52 UTC

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From: Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] draft-vf-v6ops-ipv6-deployment
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On 29/03/2021 11:19, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
> Even in a cellular network, you may still have an interesting % of users with old phones, even not "smartphones", they may be only 2.5G, etc. This is something key when you work in countries "less developed". This is one of the first parts of the analysis that we do for every customer, questions such as how many phones support IPv6? How many are iOS vs Android vs Windows (others typically are meaningless)? How much time typically take users to get a "new" phone? Are those "new" phones not really new but 2nd hand (so may be still not supporting IPv6)?, etc., etc.

End of life coming soon:
https://www.lightreading.com/5g/goodbye-3g-heres-when-t-mobile-atandt-and-verizon-will-shut-it-off-/d/d-id/763362

Now some carriers are pausing their 3G network sunset for the time 
being, but 3G sunset is real. I shouldn't be too concerned about 2.5G 
phones - I imagine their battery life to be equally as abysmal.
Kindest regards,

Olivier

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