Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH filtering on the Internet
Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> Tue, 05 November 2013 00:13 UTC
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH filtering on the Internet
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In message <52783535.9030200@si6networks.com>, Fernando Gont writes: > On 11/04/2013 03:32 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > >> > >> Certainly there's *much* more work to be done in this area, but I > >> thought that this could be good food sfor some of the discussions that > >> we were having on the topic. > > > > "Operators are known to filter IPv6 fragments". This kind of writing > > Isn't there a v6ops I-D with similar wording? > > > > implies intent, right? > > mm... as far as discussion on a number of forums went, apparently > there's intent to do so. There is also often no intent. The defaults drop fragmented packets any you have to explicitly pass them. > > Most of the "filtering" I would say is due to > > default device behavior, where no intent exists on the operator. > > Data? References? *BSD firewall drop by default. For all flavours of firewall supported. e.g. ipfw, ipf. > > So I'd > > rather see this changes to "IPv6 fragment header packets are having a > > severely degraded network experience" or something like that. > > Well, the preso is out there, already. :-( > > > > > Otherwise, great work. I would like to see traceroute or alike done with > > these kinds of packets headers also, to see where packets are dropped. > > Yep. This is in my TODO list. Hopefully we will cooperate with Tim > (Chown) et al to take these measurements further. > > Thanks, > -- > Fernando Gont > SI6 Networks > e-mail: fgont@si6networks.com > PGP Fingerprint: 6666 31C6 D484 63B2 8FB1 E3C4 AE25 0D55 1D4E 7492 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > v6ops mailing list > v6ops@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@isc.org
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Simon Perreault
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Mark Andrews
- [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH filte… Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Tim Chown
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Joe Touch
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Tim Chown
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Tim Chown
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Tim Chown
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Tim Chown
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] (RIPE Atlas) Some stats on IPv6 fragm… Vesna Manojlovic
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Jared Mauch
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… joel jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… sthaug
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Simon Perreault
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Joe Touch
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… joel jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Simon Perreault
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Pedro Torres
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Hannes Frederic Sowa
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Ronald Bonica
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Ronald Bonica
- Re: [v6ops] Some stats on IPv6 fragments and EH f… Brian E Carpenter