Re: [v6ops] Incremental Deployment of IPv6-only Wi-Fi for IETF Meetings

Noah <noah@neo.co.tz> Mon, 17 July 2017 07:01 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Incremental Deployment of IPv6-only Wi-Fi for IETF Meetings
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FWIW and to cater for all, would a fallback dual stack SSID work for the
status quo while this 2nd v6 SSID is also experimented upon which is a
great idea considering this is IETF.

Noah

On 17 Jul 2017 9:54 a.m., "Ted Lemon" <mellon@fugue.com> wrote:

> I don't think this is a social justice issue.   Does the IETF think that
> IPv6 works, or not?   If we think it works, and we have been working for
> what, 20 years, to make it work, and we have designed all this great
> transition tech, then why on earth would we not want to use it?   This
> isn't "one draft."   This is roughly half the work of the IETF for the past
> two decades.
>
> On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 8:51 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <
> jordi.palet@consulintel.es> wrote:
>
>> So we agree to change the rules so that we use this network for every ID
>> that want to experiment with it? Otherwise we discriminate among different
>> authors …
>>
>> I think is a really bad precedent.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jordi
>>
>>
>> -----Mensaje original-----
>> De: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
>> Responder a: <mellon@fugue.com>
>> Fecha: lunes, 17 de julio de 2017, 8:48
>> Para: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@consulintel.es>
>> CC: IPv6 Ops WG <v6ops@ietf.org>, Jim Martin <jim@daedelus.com>, Randy
>> Bush <randy@psg.com>, Suresh Krishnan <suresh.krishnan@gmail.com>, Russ
>> Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>, Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in>
>> Asunto: Re: [v6ops] Incremental Deployment of IPv6-only Wi-Fi for IETF
>> Meetings
>>
>>     I don't actually know what the goal of the IETF network is other than
>> to provide connectivity.   Because of the vicissitudes of hotel topology,
>> it is often the case that IETF participants experience issues with the
>> network at least once or twice per IETF despite the best efforts (and they
>> are quite exceptional) of the NOC team.   I do not really see what the
>> damage is that you are hoping to protect against here.   Users who don't
>> read the NOC announcement?   No sympathy.   Sorry.
>>
>>
>>
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