[v6ops] Re: The V6OPS WG has placed draft-cc-v6ops-wlcg-flow-label-marking in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"

Timothy Winters <tim@qacafe.com> Mon, 29 July 2024 12:51 UTC

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From: Timothy Winters <tim@qacafe.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2024 08:51:25 -0400
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I support adoption of this draft as a working group document.

~Tim

On Fri, Jul 26, 2024 at 7:29 PM Tom Herbert <tom=
40herbertland.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 26, 2024 at 2:59 PM David Farmer
> <farmer=40umn.edu@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 7:06 PM Tom Herbert <tom=
> 40herbertland.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> "In our testing, these issues are no less common in Research and
> >> Education networks."
> >>
> >> Can you provide more information on this? Also, as "research" networks
> >> it seems like there might be more latitude to be cutting edge and fix
> >> problems with things like EH?
> >
> >
> > The Research and Education networking community comprises several types
> of networks. Most of these networks are purpose-built to support the global
> scientific research enterprise. These networks are very different from
> typical enterprise business networks and simultaneously very similar in
> other ways. Modern scientific research is collaborative,
> multi-institutional, and multi-domain in nature. These networks support
> this by connecting individual researchers across the globe with their
> collaborators, laboratories, and scientific resources, including
> instruments like telescopes, electron microscopes, particle accelerators,
> and other cyberinfrastructure like supercomputers, HPC clusters, massive
> data stores, and now commercially available cloud resources. Many billions
> of dollars of funded research depend on these networks.
> >
> > The R&E networking community also has a few networks designed as
> laboratories supporting the science of networking and computer science more
> generally. These networks are typically built as virtual overlays or
> utilizing additional, excess, or parallel capacity from the production
> science networks discussed above. In the US, the previous generation was
> known as Global Environment for Network Innovations (GENI). The current
> generation of this in the US is FABRIC (FABRIC is Adaptive ProgrammaBle
> Research Infrastructure for Computer Science and Science Applications) is
> an International infrastructure that enables cutting-edge experimentation
> and research at-scale in the areas of networking, cybersecurity,
> distributed computing, storage, virtual reality, 5G, machine learning, and
> science applications.
> >
> > See the following;
> > https://www.geni.net/
> > https://portal.fabric-testbed.net/about/about-fabric
> >
>
> David,
>
> > I hope that helps!
>
> Yes, very much! Extrapolating, it sounds like these networks are being
> customized already and there's probably more motivation to adopt new
> technologies especially if they solve specific problems. Is there a
> list or group that is discussing such things, including the problems
> of IPv6 and EH in these networks?
>
> Tom
>
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