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Re: [v6ops] Incremental Deployment of IPv6-only Wi-Fi for IETF Meetings

Jen Linkova <furry13@gmail.com> Mon, 17 July 2017 16:06 UTC

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From: Jen Linkova <furry13@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 02:06:11 +1000
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Incremental Deployment of IPv6-only Wi-Fi for IETF Meetings
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On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 1:16 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
<jordi.palet@consulintel.es> wrote:
> I see it in another way around:
>
> 1) I really want to get IPv6 deployed ASAP
> 2) I need to be in touch with market reality
> 3) This means IPv6-only WAN is feasible only if we keep some “minimum” IPv4 service in the LANs
>
> Is not a chicken and egg.

Let me clarify what I mean by the chicken and egg problem here.
'We can not turn off IPv4 because there are IPv4-only endpoints there
and they are not going away. Why those endpoints are not going away?
Because there is no demand for them to work on Ipv6-only networks. Why
there is
no demand for them to work on IPv6-only networks? Because nobody is
turning off IPv4'.



> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: v6ops <v6ops-bounces@ietf.org> en nombre de Jen Linkova <furry13@gmail.com>
> Responder a: <furry13@gmail.com>
> Fecha: lunes, 17 de julio de 2017, 17:09
> Para: Philip Homburg <pch-v6ops-7@u-1.phicoh.com>
> CC: "v6ops@ietf.org" <v6ops@ietf.org>
> Asunto: Re: [v6ops] Incremental Deployment of IPv6-only Wi-Fi for IETF Meetings
>
>     On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 12:41 AM, Philip Homburg
>     <pch-v6ops-7@u-1.phicoh.com> wrote:
>     > If we assume that home wifi networks will remain dual stack for the next
>     > couple of decades to support IPv4-only devices (the WAN link can be come
>     > IPv6-only but the CPE will offer dual stack on wifi one way or another).
>     >
>     > If we assume that most office wifi networks (and networks that connect measurement
>     > equipment, industrial controllers, etc.) will do the same, then why would
>     > we advocate that other wifi networks switch to a completely different way of
>     > providing IPv4 connectivity?
>
>     I find it quite amusing how almost any IPv6-related problem turns out
>     to be a chicken and egg one.
>     'Nobody is using this because it is broken. It is broken because
>     nobody is using it'..
>
>     --
>     SY, Jen Linkova aka Furry
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