Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-ula-usage-recommendations - work or abandon?

Gert Doering <gert@space.net> Thu, 12 November 2015 18:46 UTC

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Hi,

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 10:32:34AM -0800, Owen DeLong wrote:
> How is a /48 PI hard to acquire? Where?
> 
> I know it???s utterly simple in the ARIN region.
> To the best of my knowledge, it is fairly simple in RIPE.
> It???s utterly easy in APNIC, though somewhat expensive IMHO.
> I believe it is fairly easy in LACNIC.
> To the best of my knowledge, it is not difficult or expensive in AfriNIC.
> 
> Please explain exactly what circumstances make it too difficult for any company
> to acquire a /48 PI as I would consider this a brokenness in the relevant RIR???s
> policy and would happily work to resolve the issue.

The IETF world does not (at least "should not") revolve around "companies",
and I wish you good luck finding a SoHo ISP that will route your PI space.

IOW, having a /48 PI space is nice, but if that does not have Internet
connectivity, how exactly does it differ from ULA?

Gert Doering
        -- NetMaster
-- 
have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?

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