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Re: [v6ops] Enterprises won't deploy IPv6 for IPv6's sake (as they didn't IPv4, IPX, XNS, or DECNet)

Tim Chown <tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk> Thu, 09 January 2014 17:24 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Enterprises won't deploy IPv6 for IPv6's sake (as they didn't IPv4, IPX, XNS, or DECNet)
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On 9 Jan 2014, at 17:21, "Templin, Fred L" <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com> wrote:

> Hi Tim,
> 
>> The campus wireless solutions I've seen from vendors to date that
>> support IPv6 do some "interesting" things to support devices roaming
>> between IPv6 wireless subnets.  They certainly don't seem to use
>> MIPv6, rather it seems common to use either unicast RAs and/or L2
>> tunnelling between controllers. e.g. see
> 
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps10315/products_tech_note09186a0080bae506.shtml#mobility.
> 
> I am thinking of mobiles that have WiFi plus 3G/4G. When the mobile is
> in proximity of my enterprise infrastructure then it can certainly be
> managed as it hops between WLCs as you suggest. But, when the mobile
> leaves the campus and goes in via a Starbucks WiFi (or maybe my home
> WiFi) it is beyond the management realm of the enterprise and has to
> do something if it wants to maintain a stable IP address/subnet. Or,
> if the mobile goes off the "WiFi grid" it has to fire up its 3G/4G
> link and then still somehow maintain stability.

MPTCP?  A la Siri on iOS7 etc :)

> This is not about MIPv6 - it is about AERO:

Well, the thread is about something else, so back to that....

Tim

> 
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-templin-aerolink
> 
> Thanks - Fred
> fred.l.templin@boeing.com
> 
> PS I shouldn't have to ask, but please keep this as plaintext instead
>   of converting to something else.

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