Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profile last call- "harmfully broad"?

Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com> Thu, 19 February 2015 10:33 UTC

Return-Path: <lorenzo@google.com>
X-Original-To: v6ops@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: v6ops@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A591A8A9C for <v6ops@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 02:33:15 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.088
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.088 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XXRraiXPHPHr for <v6ops@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 02:33:12 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mail-ie0-f180.google.com (mail-ie0-f180.google.com [209.85.223.180]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 693E51A8A8E for <v6ops@ietf.org>; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 02:33:12 -0800 (PST)
Received: by iecvy18 with SMTP id vy18so8319516iec.6 for <v6ops@ietf.org>; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 02:33:11 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=9klFWRg1oj3CrayV7OBEHKfUEgRfY6nSjOuYNzvjMVA=; b=Y0qzb10tq6+I7GokHbaEMw69y8pPlBf6+2ZcRCtUUrt6menDE6m/OAtipwSQQk5m8J 8/MyFHYGeAy+5/sC99na0FlvRPs+EqvWm3SUD7C4njTPchqEs5YTsZl62hLv33vU9OgE Yh4UzYYg8jat21TU7lgGRz2NtQI/0lOR1lHLmQu+cWw048D6HHHaXtyESLp2cVPeFFu1 WIHU0WO64VszcEmDmVlWllICwy3rnonl2JNkirIU9reO8IKo4hS6yqeywkjVORwnKtL8 1Lw/9jOIPHE2kckW1JgKwkVdiC5yn8sEk9wipiO2nfa2rHdJ3COMdpvKxJA7x7sQ+MOG dNbQ==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=9klFWRg1oj3CrayV7OBEHKfUEgRfY6nSjOuYNzvjMVA=; b=SzWAwADkdgJ/So01iXsCaLZ/nh+VsE3xIxzGef8qNZbqSclQ9OfK2ZBIeov2vUzbvD pmE9uo2qoaVoRyIHg6Av96UXhoiPGkNAjvfEyGAK4aTpcGJYv7XtG7XIq8Ny+vHDC2eJ 7UuVbUHdW7bfizKa6ryCD3v2kG3kBzBNSn+lsujgaqcG0VML6Hlpa1ZsrLY/FmxquQrr /jXV2hvHqyYqB1FPa/q8hyts5Gz86evglQWLXr7li4f5w9Ruez3t1ZAuxEufH6fOTN1V f0dcC4MhnmfyPgm4nIIOA9cyCs0dig2CFy85onao9s3iYq7c0SASgqkw4s1bvrBKWcC4 xxKQ==
X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQke0F49jYGxGVxMJhC8SoA8PF9YUjZoEbe/RpiRlGkT7LzOcuW9af5auPqbZgIBEOBN92Jh
X-Received: by 10.43.76.9 with SMTP id zc9mr5122178icb.84.1424341991845; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 02:33:11 -0800 (PST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Received: by 10.64.33.104 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 02:32:51 -0800 (PST)
In-Reply-To: <26150_1424277597_54E4C05D_26150_800_1_A729C0B3952BEE45A1AA136ADD556BE80493F147@OPEXCLILM23.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup>
References: <787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B9330049091C2@OPEXCLILM23.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> <CAKD1Yr2yDnwPDHgsq3Wi3UOzKY7KrqSpBMbBttJ5qAAu6ijOAw@mail.gmail.com> <54DDF02C.8020903@gmail.com> <2D09D61DDFA73D4C884805CC7865E61130F231B4@GAALPA1MSGUSRBF.ITServices.sbc.com> <6536E263028723489CCD5B6821D4B21303DEA706@UK30S005EXS06.EEAD.EEINT.CO.UK> <CAKD1Yr0j23E-UMdL2Ujv5nrpbbUa9rgPE_6AhbHLn0JeOZ9Edg@mail.gmail.com> <355A1FFC-9F92-4D61-985D-4C5FC6EC69EC@eircom.net> <CAKD1Yr2PX81czTwUZzaMtgPc9vhvP=oL++UZByGzxmkq_B=DMA@mail.gmail.com> <6536E263028723489CCD5B6821D4B21303E07EE2@UK30S005EXS06.EEAD.EEINT.CO.UK> <CAKD1Yr0Zkic6-ydV-u==xjDGdY9GYWb8KwciBPnfk8zO=6FFqQ@mail.gmail.com> <CAKD1Yr0qS-Vg-XB7mNWwephkkL5rCG+NJO7uDJg_4W3LT+Q9Ew@mail.gmail.com> <6536E263028723489CCD5B6821D4B21303E088AE@UK30S005EXS06.EEAD.EEINT.CO.UK> <CAKD1Yr00Ri8hQMsJcSqMAw+g_T-mU8GxG1G8rTHgo=McaKdW8Q@mail.gmail.com> <26150_1424277597_54E4C05D_26150_800_1_A729C0B3952BEE45A1AA136ADD556BE80493F147@OPEXCLILM23.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup>
From: Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 19:32:51 +0900
Message-ID: <CAKD1Yr2+BMSifTS3x0WD5LqKYe-Yse8CGf4Egaijp=8DVSf5UA@mail.gmail.com>
To: "BINET David IMT/OLN" <david.binet@orange.com>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c3a3c27697a3050f6e7660
Archived-At: <http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/v6ops/RGp2Vfq0IK9smMLl2HRK0hF2Kdg>
Cc: "IPv6 Ops WG \(v6ops@ietf.org\)" <v6ops@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profile last call- "harmfully broad"?
X-BeenThere: v6ops@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15
Precedence: list
List-Id: v6ops discussion list <v6ops.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/v6ops>, <mailto:v6ops-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/v6ops/>
List-Post: <mailto:v6ops@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:v6ops-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops>, <mailto:v6ops-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 10:33:15 -0000

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 1:39 AM, <david.binet@orange.com> wrote:

>
> [DB] Could you be more explicit and indicate which features are not useful
> in the draft ? As you can mention it, all features are not indicated as
> mandatory in the draft so I do not clearly understand how this document
> conflicts with what you say considering that the goal for the operator is
> to provide at least the same service access for users with IPv6
> connectivity than for users with IPv4 connectivity whatever the strategy
> retained by the operator.
>

If the goal of the document is "to provide at least the same service access
for users with IPv6 connectivity than for users with IPv4 connectivity
whatever the strategy retained by the operator" then you can reduce the
document to two requirements:

1. Support both IPv4v6 and IPv6.
2. Support 464xlat.