Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-ula-usage-recommendations - work or abandon?

[Owen DeLong <[e-mail]>]

> On Nov 14, 2015, at 10:10 , Brian E Carpenter <[e-mail]> wrote:
> 
> On 15/11/2015 01:04, Owen DeLong wrote:
>> 
>>> On Nov 14, 2015, at 03:05 , Philip Homburg <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> In your letter dated Sat, 14 Nov 2015 06:52:08 +0100 (CET) you wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015, Nick Hilliard wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 13/11/2015 13:50, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
>>>>>> If the Internet will have 10x the number of routes it has today in the
>>>>>> not-so-distant-future, there is a considerable risk that most smaller
>>>>>> players won't be able to afford to have a full view.
>>>>> 
>>>>> the dfz is growing linearly at ~50k prefixes/year.  On this basis, 10x the
>>>>> number of prefixes is a very long way away.
>>>> 
>>>> And you think this is going to continue in the future if we say "PI is the 
>>>> preferred way to multihome and please RIRs, make it as easy as possible 
>>>> for people to do this" ?
>>> 
>>> PI space is EUR 50 per year in the RIPE region, isn't it? Doesn't sound like
>>> a barrier to obtaining some.
>>> 
>>> Of course, having PI space is useless if your ISP doesn't want to announce
>>> it for you.
>> 
>> HE will announce anyone’s PI /48 for free on request if they have an ASN.
> 
> Explain how that works when there are ten million of them.

I don’t know, but I don’t think that’s a realistic number in any sort of immediate timeframe.

My guess would be that it will take quite some time before we face that issue and that by then
if we haven’t figured it out, we’re going to have some pretty big problems regardless of whether
or not SMEs are using PI /48s.

Owen