Re: [v6ops] IPv6-only section [draft-ietf-v6ops-enterprise-incremental-ipv6 WGLC]

Tore Anderson <tore@fud.no> Thu, 08 August 2013 17:45 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] IPv6-only section [draft-ietf-v6ops-enterprise-incremental-ipv6 WGLC]
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* Ray Hunter

> Who has an IPv4 address shortage *inside* the enterprise?

I do, as do many other. FWIW, these days all sorts of enterprises in the
RIPE region become LIRs just to get their hands on a measly /22 for
their own use.

> And what are these benefits *inside* the enterprise?

I'd love to be able to shut off IPv4 completely, as dual stack means
~dual complexity and ~dual operational overhead.

> LAN switches are written off over at least 10 years in the book keeping.

What does that have to with IPv4 shortage?

Tore