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Re: [v6ops] Incremental Deployment of IPv6-only Wi-Fi for IETF Meetings

JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@consulintel.es> Mon, 17 July 2017 15:17 UTC

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Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 17:16:59 +0200
From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@consulintel.es>
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Thread-Topic: [v6ops] Incremental Deployment of IPv6-only Wi-Fi for IETF Meetings
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Incremental Deployment of IPv6-only Wi-Fi for IETF Meetings
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I see it in another way around:

1) I really want to get IPv6 deployed ASAP
2) I need to be in touch with market reality
3) This means IPv6-only WAN is feasible only if we keep some “minimum” IPv4 service in the LANs

Is not a chicken and egg. If we get ISPs having the possibility of deploying IPv6-only ASAP, with CPEs that run basic IPv4 service, and this not means investing in CGN and all kind of tricks to keep providing IPv4 service, we will succeed in increase the rate of IPv6 global traffic, which will push the vendors of any kind of devices to support IPv6, so later on, we could have *real* IPv6-only LANs as well.

Regars,
Jordi
 

-----Mensaje original-----
De: v6ops <v6ops-bounces@ietf.org> en nombre de Jen Linkova <furry13@gmail.com>
Responder a: <furry13@gmail.com>
Fecha: lunes, 17 de julio de 2017, 17:09
Para: Philip Homburg <pch-v6ops-7@u-1.phicoh.com>
CC: "v6ops@ietf.org" <v6ops@ietf.org>
Asunto: Re: [v6ops] Incremental Deployment of IPv6-only Wi-Fi for IETF Meetings

    On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 12:41 AM, Philip Homburg
    <pch-v6ops-7@u-1.phicoh.com> wrote:
    > If we assume that home wifi networks will remain dual stack for the next
    > couple of decades to support IPv4-only devices (the WAN link can be come
    > IPv6-only but the CPE will offer dual stack on wifi one way or another).
    >
    > If we assume that most office wifi networks (and networks that connect measurement
    > equipment, industrial controllers, etc.) will do the same, then why would
    > we advocate that other wifi networks switch to a completely different way of
    > providing IPv4 connectivity?
    
    I find it quite amusing how almost any IPv6-related problem turns out
    to be a chicken and egg one.
    'Nobody is using this because it is broken. It is broken because
    nobody is using it'..
    
    -- 
    SY, Jen Linkova aka Furry
    
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