Re: [v6ops] Flash renumbering

Gert Doering <gert@space.net> Mon, 21 September 2020 12:21 UTC

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Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 14:21:29 +0200
From: Gert Doering <gert@space.net>
To: Philip Homburg <pch-v6ops-9@u-1.phicoh.com>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Flash renumbering
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Hi,

On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 01:47:32PM +0200, Philip Homburg wrote:
> > SOHO is 2% compare to
> > overall number of households. This statistics is easily available
> > for every country.  Majority of them are fully satisfied with 4 GE
> > ports that CPE has - they do not need second box - they could not
> > have renumbering problem.  Therefore, SOHO is even smaller problems
> > than geeks.
> 
> In my opinion it is really bad to lock us into a single box deployment.

This.

Looking at "what SOHO has *today*" is totally missing what IETF should
be focusing on: how to improve SOHO networking with IPv6 for *tomorrow*.

Homenet demonstrated what IETF can do if looking beyond "today".

Gert Doering
        -- NetMaster
-- 
have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?

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