Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-ula-usage-recommendations-02.txt

Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> Mon, 17 February 2014 14:02 UTC

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In message <alpine.DEB.2.02.1402171047250.14422@uplift.swm.pp.se>, Mikael Abrah
amsson writes:
> On Sun, 16 Feb 2014, Ted Lemon wrote:
> 
> > On Feb 16, 2014, at 1:22 PM, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote:
> >> I did not say "don't do ULA". I said that the number of situations where U
> LA is detrimental vastly outweighs the number where it is useful.
> >
> > Can you give an example of a case where ULAs are detrimental?
> 
> RFC3484 device with IPv4 connectivity but not IPv6 Internet connectivity. 
> It will then try to use its ULA address to reach Internet addresses using 
> IPv6.

And it will still work pretty well.  Longest match selects the right
IPv6 address when you have GUA most of the time.  If it doesn't the
ICMPv6 admin prohibited message should cause the app to fall over
to IPv4 as will HE apps or any well written multi-homed client.

Mark

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